[Robinj]

Hi anyone remember a small 1000 ton(approx) tanker M.V. Frenulina who I sailed on in 1961 around the Indonesian Islands (before Bali became a tourist trap), and the occasional trip to Singapore where she was laid up in early 1962. Thanks

[ruud]

Ahoy ROBINJ,

Here a link to her

http://www.helderline.nl/?p=/ship_details.php?id=730

Grosvenor
GT:890 Len.:193 Beam:32 B'ldr:43 Comp.:1945
Coastal Tanker. MOWT.
1947 FRENULINA, Anglo-Saxon Petroleum Co.
1954 Rebuilt to 1041 g.t, 230ft.
1962 ANLOK, Teck Hwa Shipping Co, Panama.
1962 PERMINA VI, National Oil Co, Indonesia.
1974 BIMOLI 01, P.T.Bimoli, Indonesia

[Robinj]

Many thanks Rudd for this Info, and all the rest you have given us.

[mikefoster]

> Hi anyone remember a small 1000 ton(approx) tanker M.V. Frenulina

In the early 1950s Shell had a number of little Fs. I can recall the Frenulina, Fossarus, Fossarina, Fusus and I think Ficus. Memory also links them with two ships still under the Empire name, the Empire Tesbury and the Empire Tescombe. All this is very much "scratching the head" stuff so I offer no guarantees !

Mike

[Robinj]

I think there was the Fossularca and the Fusinus as well.

[mikefoster]

[Robinj]I think there was the Fossularca and the Fusinus as well.[/quote]

I'm sure you're right. You are obviously better at head scratching than I am !

Mike

[Robinj]

Maybe Mike but I also get splinters.

[numbnuts]

Hi, Robin.

Remember the Frenulina well....I was R/O in the Fusinus in 1961 and our paths crossed many times on the way to Benoa....remember the Benoa Yacht Club? The bar on stilts alongside the lagoon causeway? Good job they didn't have a Health & Safety Department in those days.

The bell of the Frenulina was is (?) in a bar on Orchard Road in Singapore.

Regards,
Tony

[Robinj]

Hi Tony, Yeah remember the Fusinus well and the Benoa Yacht Club. It was amazing what a packet of lucky strike would get you. I see you also sailed with Houlders Ore Carriers too. Regards Robin

[Allan Wareing]

Originally Posted by Robinj

I think there was the Fossularca and the Fusinus as well.

Robinj
Yes there was certainly a Fossularca - not sure about Fucinus.
Allan

[Tom Logan]

Originally Posted by Robinj

Hi anyone remember a small 1000 ton(approx) tanker M.V. Frenulina who I sailed on in 1961 around the Indonesian Islands (before Bali became a tourist trap), and the occasional trip to Singapore where she was laid up in early 1962. Thanks

2nd.Mate on 'Fossarina' 62/63. Joined at Balik Papan, Jonny Campkin Master, made myself popular when I asked if we should ring 'Full Ahead' after we cleared the channel, to be told we had been on full ahead since leaving the berth. At best she made about 8kts in good weather! But a good time all the same. Eastern Fleet small ships were a law to themselves. Great times.
Anyone remember to really shall ships, 'Lang','Kluang' and the rest. Any photos anywhere, particularily 'Lang' ?

[ruud]

Ahoy Tom,
Looking for these?

[Tom Logan]

Originally Posted by ruud

Ahoy Tom,
Looking for these?

Just the thing,thanks. Are both photos Kluang? I've been looking for photos ;ike these for ages, as I fancy building a model of Lang as I was Mate on her 1n 1962 under Basil(?) Wheeler then Bob Woods. At that time Jef.Cush was master on Kluang. Have you any more photos?

[Robinj]

Hi Tom. Remember the Fossarins. Fusinus, Fossularca, and the Rita among others all around the Indonesian Islands.

[mclean]

Originally Posted by Tom Logan

Just the thing,thanks. Are both photos Kluang? I've been looking for photos ;ike these for ages, as I fancy building a model of Lang as I was Mate on her 1n 1962 under Basil(?) Wheeler then Bob Woods. At that time Jef.Cush was master on Kluang. Have you any more photos?

Tom, the one on the right, showing her starboard side is the Lang. The sister to the Lang was the Landak, which simply one day just vanished. Both about 305dwt. Kluang of similar size 313dwt. Regards Colin

[ruud]

Originally Posted by Tom Logan

Just the thing,thanks. Are both photos Kluang? I've been looking for photos ;ike these for ages, as I fancy building a model of Lang as I was Mate on her 1n 1962 under Basil(?) Wheeler then Bob Woods. At that time Jef.Cush was master on Kluang. Have you any more photos?

Ahoy Tom,
The photo in b/w is the Kluang, the coloured is the Lang.
Have to dig in the old shoeboxes, but will have a look later on.

[Tom Logan]

Originally Posted by mclean

Tom, the one on the right, showing her starboard side is the Lang. The sister to the Lang was the Landak, which simply one day just vanished. Both about 305dwt. Kluang of similar size 313dwt. Regards Colin

Thanks for the info. I should have remembered Lang and Kluang were very similar, but not sisters. Our Old Man, Karl Wheeler ( not Basil as I said before) had had a run in witrh London office and was limited to having the smallest ship in the fleet, and when he went on leave had always to return to Lang, as she was smaller (just) than Kluang. The Locan was even smaller, but Indonesian flag.

[ruud]

Ahoy Tom,
As requested here the KLUANG in HR.

http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kluangjr6.jpg

[Knut]

I believe LOCAN was the one called SLING when she came under Norwegian flag. She certainly was smaller than LANG(Slang). Only Skipper and Mate Norwegians, the rest Chinese. Mainly on the Pladju-Muntok run.
LANG had a sister in Singapore supplying bunkers. I remember her well as we took on all of 4 tons of diesel from her! Served as 2.Mate on the LANG from july-63 until I had the luck to come down with kidney stone, and signed off in april 64. I have two pics of LANG, but if I try to include them here, I`m sure to mess it up. It`s easier by mail. So Tom, let me have your adress.
Knut.

[Tom Logan]

Originally Posted by Tom Logan

Thanks for the info. I should have remembered Lang and Kluang were very similar, but not sisters. Our Old Man, Karl Wheeler ( not Basil as I said before) had had a run in witrh London office and was limited to having the smallest ship in the fleet, and when he went on leave had always to return to Lang, as she was smaller (just) than Kluang. The Locan was even smaller, but Indonesian flag.

I've got it wrong again. Call it a senior moment. The Old Man was Carl Fiddler, Basil Wheeler was Master on my first Eagle Oil ship 'San Wenceslao'. Sorry Basil, if you are still with us!

[mclean]

Originally Posted by ruud

Ahoy Tom,
Looking for these?

Rudd, the photo on the right, ( Lang ) originates from the book Sea Shell. It lists the photo as having been taken at Singapore. We do not believe it is Singapore. Would anyone have any ideas on this? Colin

[Knut]

Ruud`s picture is neither of Lang nor of Singapore. Looks more like East Africa to me? Picture of Lang (Norw.Slang) is in the gallery. Search for SlangXLang 1953.
Anybody can see the differences. No need to point them out.
Regards, Knut.

[mclean]

Originally Posted by Knut

Ruud`s picture is neither of Lang nor of Singapore. Looks more like East Africa to me? Picture of Lang (Norw.Slang) is in the gallery. Search for SlangXLang 1953.
Anybody can see the differences. No need to point them out.
Regards, Knut.

Knut, agree with you it is not the Lang for obvious reasons. Have been discussing this with Tom on email and can only assume it is the Landak which was a close sister and disappeared without trace in the 50,s. East Africa would have been outside of her trading area (Pladju/Singapore etc.).Regards Colin

[davehowden]

Hi,

I remember the saying "The LANG can but the LOCAN no can", must have been refering to some daring feat of navigation on the Musi at night I guess.

I was on the ANTONIA, RITA, GARI and the MERATUS in those bygone days, a good meal, a few beers and ... and still change out of twopence.

Dave Howden

[stevecz]

Originally Posted by mclean

Knut, agree with you it is not the Lang for obvious reasons. Have been discussing this with Tom on email and can only assume it is the Landak which was a close sister and disappeared without trace in the 50,s. East Africa would have been outside of her trading area (Pladju/Singapore etc.).Regards Colin

Colin,
Could it be that both pictures are of the Kluang. I don't think it is Landak as she is almost identical to Lang, we are back to counting portholes again, check the spacing. Also the aftermost doors on Lang & Landak are missing on the mystery vessel. We need a beam on picture of Kluang.
Steve