SS Buyano - Elders Fyffes 1920s

A J Shepherd
24th June 2007, 16:19
Hi!

Searching for any information on SS Buyano (Bayano?) in 1920s/30s - esp wrt my grandfather Walter Sumner, Master Mariner. Believed on board when HRH Prince of Wales opened extension to Avonmouth Docks in 1927.

K urgess
24th June 2007, 16:22
Welcome aboard from East Yorkshire.
I'm sure someone will be able to come up with answers for you.
Meanwhile, enjoy the trip.

Trevorw
24th June 2007, 16:26
It's actually, "Bayano". Built 1917 (I think) she was a coalburner like her sisters, "Kavina" and Ariguani"

R58484956
24th June 2007, 16:51
Greetings AJS (well known initials in bike world) and welcome to SN from the south of England, enjoy the site and bon voyage.

SS Bayano 6815 tons built 1917 by Alexander Stephens & Co, Glasgow.
425.5 x 54.2 x 30.4. 6 cyl Up & Downer. 2 double ended boilers and 2 single ended @205 psi. Engines built by shipbuilders. Twin screw. DF,ESD. Radar
4 decks. Code flags GBVQ. Registered Glasgow, British flag. Owned by Elders & Fyffe.
Broken up at Ghent 06/01/1956.

6815 gross, 5204 Under deck, 3779 net tonnages.

K urgess
24th June 2007, 17:05
The Bayano was built in 1917 by Alex Stephen.
The sisters were the Ariguani(1917), Carare(1925 by Cammell Laird), Cavina(1926), Bayano(1917) and Camito(1915).
6,700 gross, 4,100 nett, 6,400 deadweight tons.
425' x 54' x 30' draft 26'.
Steam recip twin screw, coal fired, speed 14 knots.
Cargo 280,000 cu.ft. general & 194,000 cu.ft refrigerated.
She carried 100 passengers.

The above and the attached silhouette courtesy of "Merchant Ships 1942" by Talbot-Booth.

Cheers
Kris

Bruce Carson
24th June 2007, 17:06
She was built by Alexander Stephen at Linthouse, Glasgow in 1917, one of four sisterships.
Laid down as the 'Cauca', the name was changed to 'Arguan' on the stocks and she was launched as 'Bayano'.
She began as an armed merchant cruiser and entered E&F's service in 1919, lasting until 1955.
6,850GT, 425' x 54', coal, twin screw, 3exp (23 1/2", 39 1/2", 67" by 48" stroke), 14 knots.
104 1st class passengers, later reduced to 61.
Sisterships: 'Cavina', 'Carare' and 'Ariguani'.

Picture as an AMC:
http://www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuilt/warships/vessel.asp?id=4514
Pictures (scroll down):
http://www.mercantilemarine.org/showthread.php?t=376

Bruce C

K urgess
24th June 2007, 17:13
There you are. What more could you want.
Talk about quick service.(Thumb)
I shall have to correct my book's note of deadweight.(POP)

Bruce Carson
24th June 2007, 17:26
There you are. What more could you want.
Talk about quick service.(Thumb)
I shall have to correct my book's note of deadweight.(POP)

Kris--you probably shouldn't--I've seen at least three or four different figures for the gross tonnage--she may have been remeasured over the years.
Another bone of contention with some--there were three ships built in 1915--the 'Cavina', sunk in 1917, the 'Coronado' and the 'Camito'. Their tonnage was slightly less, around 6,550GT, but of the same dimensions as the later ships. (425' x 54'). I suppose I would call them sisterships, but the reference I used lists them as a separate group.

I'm picking flyshit out of pepper again, I forgot to take my medicine.
Bruce

Bruce Carson
24th June 2007, 17:44
Hello AJS--I didn't realize this was your first post.
Welcome onboard.
Take a look around and I think you'll be impressed with the forums and the galleries.
Join in, the water's fine and the members are friendly.

Best
Bruce

Gulpers
25th June 2007, 10:11
AJS,

A warm welcome to SN from the Isle of Anglesey.
I am sure our members will continue to help you with your query, in the meantime, have a good look round and join in the banter as much as possible.
Beware, it is addictive! (Thumb)

gdynia
28th June 2007, 12:36
Welcome onboard to SN and enjoy the voyage

Tony Breach
4th July 2007, 12:35
Welcome & thanks for the query which has brought some interesting & knowlegable responses. I keep my own records of all ships of UFC & their subsidiaries & have noted the problem with classification of the earlier & later groups which were all known as 'A' class by Fyffes due to their large passenger capacity. They were more than just similar.

I have a query about the ARIGAUNI & her main topmast which, according to Duncan Haws returned to civilian service minus her main topmast in 1946 & have been told that she negligently shot it off herself during her military service. I have photographs of her prior to WW2 with both topmasts in place, during WW2 as a fighter catapult ship with both topmasts removed, apparently during WW2 after return to MoWT in 1943 with the main topmast missing but the fore topmast fitted, after WW2 with both topmasts in place & finally lying at Wards of Briton Ferry for scrapping with both topmasts again removed to clear the River Neath bridge. I beleive that the removal of topmasts during WW2 was purely a military requirement either when serving as an ocean boarding vessel or as a fighter catapult ship. Would really appreciate a definitive answer to this one so I can tidy my file on her.

Tony

John Rogers
4th July 2007, 13:28
I sailed on four of the Fyffes banana boats in the 1950s, Ariguani,Bayano,Cavina,and the Corrales. The data from my Discharge book is as follows..Ariguani Official No 148890 Reg Tons 4116 HP 1028.Bayano No 141870 Reg Tons 3791 HP1027. Cavina Official No 147896 Reg Tons 3834 HP 1097. Corrales Official No 161902 Reg Tons 3211 HP750. They were all coal burners steam recip engines.
This data may help you identify the right one.
John.

melliget
6th July 2007, 23:53
AJ.

The opening of the extension to Avonmouth Docks was actually in 1928 (Wed 23 May). Here's a photo (not the best quality I'm afraid) from The Times showing the BAYANO apparently cutting a ribbon with her bow:

http://tinyurl.com/2h6xe3

regards,
Martin