Divers fined for raiding sunken German warships at Scapa Flow

D1566
30th November 2016, 11:15
From the BBC;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-38144450
Serves them right.

5036
30th November 2016, 13:24
From the BBC;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-38144450
Serves them right.

I find this perplexing, do we leave all this memorabilia to rot away on the seabed where it will never be seen again or do we recover significant items in a controlled manner.

Either way, these guys are amateurs, they've lost three complete ships in the Phillipines:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-37997640

David Williams
30th November 2016, 15:14
From the BBC;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-38144450
Serves them right.

I was under the impression that these ships
were being cut up as scrap on a regular basis,
or at least they were being salvaged,do not
know if this still goes on.
Dave Williams

TommyRob
30th November 2016, 19:01
Are they a war grave or is this just British officialdom dishing out a few more rules?

Cisco
30th November 2016, 19:44
I find this perplexing, do we leave all this memorabilia to rot away on the seabed where it will never be seen again or do we recover significant items in a controlled manner.

Either way, these guys are amateurs, they've lost three complete ships in the Phillipines:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-37997640

Um..Er... 'Nav', I have to point out that is actually in Indonesia...

I have to assume navigation and geography weren't your strong points at school.. (Jester)

5036
30th November 2016, 19:46
Um..Er... 'Nav', I have to point out that is actually in Indonesia...

I have to assume navigation and geography weren't your strong points at school.. (Jester)

Brain going. They all sound the same to me. Thanks for the correction.

BobClay
30th November 2016, 20:54
Nav does have a valid point though. War graves aside, which I think should be left, is it acceptable to recover materials from other wrecks ?

I'm assuming these German ships in Scapa Flow are left over from the scuppering of the fleet after World War One. I did read somewhere that recovered steel from these wrecks was desirable because it was less radioactive having been underwater for so long. I don't know if that's true.

Robert Ballard, the man who located the Titanic, has expressed concern about the filching of the wreck for commercial purposes. Clearly in time a wreck like the Titanic will simply disappear into the seabed, so should we recover items off it ?

oceanmariner
19th September 2017, 01:13
The steel and armor from German ships was advertised for sale as recent as twenty years ago in many US marine and industrial publications. The radiation issue is steel made before the first atomic blasts is valued in some instrumentation. And armor, hardened steel requires many processes and takes months from start to finish. The armor meets or exceeds many needs.
The USS Chicago a cruiser, was sunk about the same time as the Exeter and somewhat nearby was also salvaged. The screws went first, bronze.
Considering the ships are completely gone, maybe these people could remove unwanted wrecks.

jim.child
19th September 2017, 14:03
read this book many years ago about the salvage of some of the german fleet by a midlands scrap man. a very interesting read.