S.S.Cassiopeia

Ellis
18th July 2008, 17:26
Hello,

My Interest is finding any details of the S.S. Cassiopeia. I understand she was a merchant vessel and was lost in the 1st World War about November 1915. I have looked at every site I can find and there is no mention of a vessel of this name. I would be very grateful if anyone out there has any information or could suggest where I could enquire. Thank you

K urgess
18th July 2008, 17:38
Welcome aboard from East Yorkshire, Ellis.
If you do a search on miramar there are several listed as this one.
http://www.miramarshipindex.org.nz/ship/show/190880
I'm sure the crew will be able to help if that site doesn't.
Explore the ship and enjoy the voyage.

Bruce Carson
18th July 2008, 17:49
From Michigan, a warm welcome to Ships Nostalgia, Ellis.
Here's hoping our members will have answers for you.
Good to have you onboard.

Bruce

non descript
18th July 2008, 17:49
Ellis, a warm welcome to you. Thank you for joining the community and I see you already have a little feed-back on Cassiopeia, let's hope we can come up with some more for you. Enjoy the site and all it has to offer and we very much look forward to your postings. Bon Voyage

R58484956
18th July 2008, 19:01
Greetings Ellis from a member in the south of England. Bon voyage.

Hugh MacLean
18th July 2008, 22:18
Hello Ellis,

Could it be the Grimsby Steam Trawler CASSIOPEIA lost on 6th November 1915?

Regards

Ellis
18th July 2008, 22:51
Hello Ellis,

Could it be the Grimsby Steam Trawler CASSIOPEIA lost on 6th November 1915?

Regards
Hi Hugh,

Yes, that could certainly be the ship. I am interested because my grandfather was lost on it in 1915 and he did live in Grimsby. Do you have any more information please.

Thank you,

Ellis

benjidog
18th July 2008, 23:17
Welcome from Lancashire.

I hope you will enjoy the site.

Regards,

Brian

billyboy
18th July 2008, 23:38
Welcome aboard from the Philippines. Enjoy all this great site has to offer

Hugh MacLean
18th July 2008, 23:53
Hi Ellis,
Is your grandfather listed below:

001 (http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2979238)BAKER, FHP - 06/11/1915
002 (http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2979461)BEECHAM, AD - 06/11/1915
003 (http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2977621)CLARKE, PG - 06/11/1915
004 (http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2887112)GLENTON, F - 06/11/1915
005 (http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2887143)GOLDSMITH, AE - 06/11/1915
006 (http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2975738)HARWOOD, PR - 06/11/1915
007 (http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2976663)JOHNSON, SJ - 06/11/1915
008 (http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2973395)PHILIPS, P - 06/11/1915
009 (http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2969169)THOMPSON, RH - 06/11/1915

Click on the digits to the left of the names to reveal the CWGC entry.
Regards (Thumb)

Hi Hugh,

Yes, that could certainly be the ship. I am interested because my grandfather was lost on it in 1915 and he did live in Grimsby. Do you have any more information please.

Thank you,

Ellis

Ellis
19th July 2008, 00:00
Hello Hugh,
Yes, he is P.G. Clarke,thank you so much.
Just a thought, do you know what actually happened to the ship.

Regards,
Ellis

Hugh MacLean
19th July 2008, 00:10
Have not found that info yet, Ellis. If it is not forthcoming soon, I would guess our fishing community would be the best bet. I will keep digging for you though.
Regards

gdynia
19th July 2008, 01:28
Welcome onboard to SN and enjoy the voyage. If you do a google search on the vessel you will find details of your grandfather being commemorated on the memorial at Tower Hill London

Roger Jordan
19th July 2008, 10:13
Hello Ellis
Greetings from County Mayo.
I have not found any information on the cause of loss of CASSIOPEIA, but there must be some evidence available that suggest/proves she was a war causes loss.
Lloyd’s Register Casualty Returns for 1915 states briefly “Left Grimsby on 6th November 1915: not since heard of”, and she is in the “marine hazard losses” section.
CASSIOPEIA was owned by Grimsby & North Sea Steam Trawling Co Ltd, of Fish Dock Road, Grimsby, and was one of a large fleet owned by that company at the start of the First World War.
She was built by Edwards Brothers, North Shields (later taken over by Smith’s Dock), launched on 26 July 1898 and completed in September 1898. Official number 109810, 152 tons gross, 60 tons net, registered length 104.8 ft, registered breadth 20.9 ft, registered depth 10.8 ft, fitted with triple expansion steam engine of 45 reg’d horsepower.
Regards
Roger

Roger Jordan
19th July 2008, 10:20
Hello Ellis
Further to my previous posting, you might have found this already, but if you do a google search for "Grimsby Trawler Cassiopeia 1915", as I have just done, you should find a link to the WWI Roll of Honour for the town of Rye, Sussex. Philip George Clarke is on that Roll.
Regards
Roger

Ellis
19th July 2008, 10:34
Hello Ellis
Greetings from County Mayo.
I have not found any information on the cause of loss of CASSIOPEIA, but there must be some evidence available that suggest/proves she was a war causes loss.
Lloyd’s Register Casualty Returns for 1915 states briefly “Left Grimsby on 6th November 1915: not since heard of”, and she is in the “marine hazard losses” section.
CASSIOPEIA was owned by Grimsby & North Sea Steam Trawling Co Ltd, of Fish Dock Road, Grimsby, and was one of a large fleet owned by that company at the start of the First World War.
She was built by Edwards Brothers, North Shields (later taken over by Smith’s Dock), launched on 26 July 1898 and completed in September 1898. Official number 109810, 152 tons gross, 60 tons net, registered length 104.8 ft, registered breadth 20.9 ft, registered depth 10.8 ft, fitted with triple expansion steam engine of 45 reg’d horsepower.
Regards
Roger
Hi Roger,

Thank you for your help, I have always understood from my Grandma that he was lost in the war (of course I,myself, didn't know him) and she didn't seem to have much information either. So from the replies I have had, I have learned a lot and am very grateful.

Regards,

Ellis

Hugh MacLean
19th July 2008, 13:07
Ellis,

Now that we have the official number 109810 of the vessel from Roger. You may be interested in knowing that there is a Crew Agreement for the vessel for 1915 held at TNA in piece BT99/3114 at this link: 1915 Crew Agreement (http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/displaycataloguedetails.asp?CATID=3177065&CATLN=6&Highlight=%2C109810&accessmethod=0)
There is also a 1911 Agreement held in BT144/174.

The MHA Canada also has crew lists for 1914 and 1915 held at this link: http://www.mun.ca/mha/holdings/viewcrews.php?Official_No=109810

Make another post if you need further info.

Regards (Thumb)

Ellis
19th July 2008, 18:45
Ellis,

Now that we have the official number 109810 of the vessel from Roger. You may be interested in knowing that there is a Crew Agreement for the vessel for 1915 held at TNA in piece BT99/3114 at this link: 1915 Crew Agreement (http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/displaycataloguedetails.asp?CATID=3177065&CATLN=6&Highlight=%2C109810&accessmethod=0)
There is also a 1911 Agreement held in BT144/174.

The MHA Canada also has crew lists for 1914 and 1915 held at this link: http://www.mun.ca/mha/holdings/viewcrews.php?Official_No=109810

Make another post if you need further info.

Regards (Thumb)
Hi Hugh,

Yes I have found his name on the War Memorial at Rye Church and also on the Tower Hill Memorial. Yourself and Roger have certainly been a great help to me and given me some closure on his death. I will certainly follow up your latest information. Many thanks again,
Kind regards,
Ellis