Can anyone help please

di1604
29th July 2008, 10:17
Hi, I wonder if anyone could help me, I am attempting to write my first novel and am doing it based around a fishing apprentice in the 1800s. I am trying to find some information on the smacks of around 1870 times, what they were like on board, the equipment used, were they would sleep etc, how long they would be at sea for? What an average working day would consist of for the boys / men. I am also trying to get a feel of how someone who has been at sea in a storm etc their thoughts feelings that sort of thing. I really would like to get the facts right and being a woman who has never been to sea,(H) I am finding it difficult to visualize this very important part of my book. So would be grateful for any help anyone can offer me.
Thank you

K urgess
29th July 2008, 10:36
Welcome aboard from East Yorkshire.
I'm sure the crew will be able to help you with your request.
My GGF sailed as an apprentice out of Grimsby in 1862 and it was a very hard life. If you look in the fishing vessels forum you may find what you're looking for.
Enjoy the voyage.

12548
29th July 2008, 10:44
Hi, I wonder if anyone could help me, I am attempting to write my first novel and am doing it based around a fishing apprentice in the 1800s. I am trying to find some information on the smacks of around 1870 times, what they were like on board, the equipment used, were they would sleep etc, how long they would be at sea for? What an average working day would consist of for the boys / men. I am also trying to get a feel of how someone who has been at sea in a storm etc their thoughts feelings that sort of thing. I really would like to get the facts right and being a woman who has never been to sea,(H) I am finding it difficult to visualize this very important part of my book. So would be grateful for any help anyone can offer me.
Thank you

Hi,
Dont know too much on all this,but the following may assist to satrt you off on your project
Cheers
joller6

http://www.llangibby.eclipse.co.uk/milfordtrawlers/smacks.htm

http://www.gorleston-heritage.co.uk/RIVERSIDE.htm

http://www.stjohnshistoriccemetery.com/pensacolas_heritages/fishing.htm

http://www.nps.gov/archive/safr/local/wharf.html

http://www.torbytes.co.uk/op/tm7/lv2/item1410.htm

http://www.fleetwood-trawlers.connectfree.co.uk/industry.html

Hope some of these will assist

billyboy
29th July 2008, 11:09
welcome aboard from the Philippines. Enjoy all this great site has to offer.

R58484956
29th July 2008, 16:23
Welcome di to sN. Bon voyage.

Duncan112
29th July 2008, 20:31
Scottish Fisheries Museum at Anstruther might be another good resource - was excellent when I visited it about 10 years ago.

http://www.scotfishmuseum.org/

Duncan

di1604
29th July 2008, 20:41
Hi, thanks everyone for your help, I will go check out all sites recomend.

benjidog
31st July 2008, 17:09
Welcome from Lancashire.

I hope you will enjoy the site.

Regards,

Brian

davetodd
1st August 2008, 00:04
Hello di1604
Grimsby Central Library-Reference Room is a Goldmine for your research.
I recommend reading "Out of Grimsby" by the late Alf May.
Published in 1989 ISBN 0-902662-86-4
The reference Library have two copies I think.
The book covers the period between 1882 and 1932 and describes the conditions at sea and the conditions ashore for the fishermans family.
Keep your tissues handy.
You may also find that John Wilson the N.E.Lincs archivist at the Grimsby Town Hall could help you, since he collected much of the Apprentice documentation and information and has written more than one book on this subject.
Best of luck with your writing.
Dave

gdynia
1st August 2008, 00:40
Welcome onboard to SN and enjoy the voyage

Tony Breach
1st August 2008, 09:35
There is a fishing museum at Hastings & an excellent book The Fishermen of Hastings by Steve Peak.

Fishing methods, boats, catches, dialects & "language" vary a lot depending on the location. Whereabouts does the fishing part of your novel take place?

Tony

di1604
2nd August 2008, 23:37
Hello di1604
Grimsby Central Library-Reference Room is a Goldmine for your research.
I recommend reading "Out of Grimsby" by the late Alf May.
Published in 1989 ISBN 0-902662-86-4
The reference Library have two copies I think.
The book covers the period between 1882 and 1932 and describes the conditions at sea and the conditions ashore for the fishermans family.
Keep your tissues handy.
You may also find that John Wilson the N.E.Lincs archivist at the Grimsby Town Hall could help you, since he collected much of the Apprentice documentation and information and has written more than one book on this subject.
Best of luck with your writing.
Dave
Thanks Dave not heard of that one, will have to go and have a look at it

di1604
2nd August 2008, 23:39
There is a fishing museum at Hastings & an excellent book The Fishermen of Hastings by Steve Peak.

Fishing methods, boats, catches, dialects & "language" vary a lot depending on the location. Whereabouts does the fishing part of your novel take place?

Tony

Hi, Tony it starts in Sheringham then to Grimsby

Tony Breach
3rd August 2008, 09:44
Hi di1604,

There is some good info given in this thread about Grimsby which should help with authenticity with your novel. Hope you will advise this site when your book is published & wish you all the best for success.

Tony

di1604
3rd August 2008, 17:04
Hi di1604,

There is some good info given in this thread about Grimsby which should help with authenticity with your novel. Hope you will advise this site when your book is published & wish you all the best for success.

Tony

Hi Tony thank you, of course I will let you all know if and when I get published.I'll be shouting it from the Dock Tower (==D)

ddraigmor
3rd August 2008, 17:54
There is an excellent book set around the sailing fishing boats - it is fiction but it is a masterly tome. It is called 'The Lost Mariner' by William Bedford.

The synopsis on Amazon is: Samuel Vempley boards the Rechabit bound for Iceland, hoping to find news of Miriam, his lost love. But he hadn't anticipated the cruelty of life at sea or the hostilities aboard the ship. As he struggles with his own demons, he senses himself and the boat inexorably heading towards disaster.

The web link is:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lost-Mariner-William-Bedford/dp/0349108056/ref=sr_1_1/203-8409920-2090346?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217782385&sr=8-1

Worth a read and worth a look to see his quality and obvious knowledge of the sailing boats of those years.

Jonty

di1604
3rd August 2008, 22:23
Thanks Jonty, will have a look, it sounds like a good read.