2 of fat 1 of lean new member

ferrypip
31st January 2009, 18:00
any ex harrison men out there

non descript
31st January 2009, 18:19
ferrypip, a warm welcome to you. Thank you for joining the community - and making an initial posting on the forum thread. Do enjoy the site and all it has to offer, and we very much look forward to your postings in due course. (Thumb)

Bruce Carson
31st January 2009, 18:19
Ferrypip, a warm welcome to Ships Nostalgia, it's good to have you onboard.
We do have ex harrison men as members--make yourself at home and join in our friendly conversations at any time.

Bruce

K urgess
31st January 2009, 19:08
Welcome aboard from East Yorkshire.
I'm sure there are a few Harrison's lads in the crew.
Find your way around and enjoy the trip.

bert thompson
31st January 2009, 21:54
Welcome to this wonderful site
Best wishes
Bert.

billyboy
31st January 2009, 21:58
Welcome aboard from the Philippines. Enjoy all this great site has to offer

tom roberts
31st January 2009, 22:45
Welcome ferrypip did one trip in 2 fat 1 lean on the Novelist 1954 as j.o.s.unable to make out the skippers name in discharge book,I have met capt Trainor and chief steward Alf Eady ex T&J at the Indefatigable old boys Liverpool branch and we are grateful for Harrisons support to the old school, I hope you have luck in contacting old T&J .P.S did you pay union dues? if so check out the forum and put in your comments. Tom Roberts

martyn greenhalgh
31st January 2009, 23:54
welcome ferrypip ,plenty of ex Harrison lads on board being one myself. I was with T&J from 1966 to72 my last ship being the Defender aug 71 to june 72

martyn greenhalgh
1st February 2009, 00:01
for photos of harrison ships go to search this forum (top right of this page) type in "spanner" scroll down to "fieldsy" and click on web sight.

benjidog
1st February 2009, 00:22
Welcome from Lancashire.
I hope you will enjoy the site.

For the benefit of the uninitiated, can you explain the expression "Two of fat, one of lean" please?

stan mayes
1st February 2009, 12:31
Hello Brian,
From the funnel colours of white red white bands on a black funnel.
Also known as Tom and Jerry's......T&J Harrison..
Regards
Stan

Gulpers
1st February 2009, 15:10
Ferrypip,

A warm welcome to the site from the Isle of Anglesey!
I hope you thoroughly enjoy your time on SN and get many happy hours entertainment from your membership. (Thumb)

edward
1st February 2009, 15:58
welcome on board ferrypip sailed with harrisons from 1965 to 1970 finnished as 2nd cook& baker,enjoy the site.regards edward.

DMA
1st February 2009, 17:21
any ex harrison men out there

Welcome,yes a few of us here,wait till closing time.(Thumb)

Sailed on a few..
Barrister
Custodian
Adventurer
Interpreter
Journalist

lofty
1st February 2009, 18:28
welcome aboard i sailed with harrisons 1956/1960 catering dept.ships.journalist.astronomer,and factor

benjidog
1st February 2009, 18:29
Hello Brian,
From the funnel colours of white red white bands on a black funnel.
Also known as Tom and Jerry's......T&J Harrison..
Regards
Stan

Thanks Stan - I like that!

ferrypip
1st February 2009, 22:17
I know Alf and Harry from Blackstone st when they were working on the Indys figurehead. Have also been to Indy,s school in Menai to collect some Harrison models

R58484956
2nd February 2009, 12:11
Greetings ferrypip and welcome to SN. Bon voyage.

Fieldsy
2nd February 2009, 12:21
I know Alf and Harry from Blackstone st when they were working on the Indys figurehead. Have also been to Indy,s school in Menai to collect some Harrison models

Hi Ferrypip,
My self (Kevin Fields - T&J engineer from 1973-1982), and Gerry Whitehead (Chief Steward) sometimes look in. There are a few Harrison posts dotted around the site.

There's a Harrison Line reunion in Liverpool at the end of November each year - Gerry is the key organiser. Didn't go to the meal at the Adelphi but was at the Crown afterwards. Some of those there: Keith Duffy, Steve Slattery, Jimmy Hampson, Ginger Murray, Mick Kavanagh, Keith Rushton, Nigel Jardine, Phil Mault, John Beeton, Alan Soens - and over a hundred others.

Find one of Gerry's posts on the forum and send him a personal message - he can add you to the data base for next year's invitation.
Cheers,
Kevin

ferrypip
2nd February 2009, 16:30
Thanks for that Fieldsy. I know a few of those you mentioned. Was working "under" John Beeton till about 96/97.

Buoy
2nd February 2009, 20:39
Greetings and welcome to SN. I did my first trip as a Marconi JRO in T&J's Naturalist in March 1968. Spent 90% of the time throwing up due extreme seasickness! Enjoy the site!!

gdynia
3rd February 2009, 02:13
Welcome onboard to SN and enjoy the voyage

John Glover
3rd February 2009, 02:54
Hello and welcome to SN. I sailed with T&J from 1973 till 1977. VESSELS:
DALESMAN, LINGUIST, ADMINISTRATOR, MAGICIAN, PLAINSMAN. DISCOVERER, MERCHANT. EXPLORER, SPECIALIST, BENEFACTOR, ADVENTURER. Good company to work for, Billy Finn in the personnel was a great guy does anyone know what happened to him.

Allan Wareing
3rd February 2009, 02:59
ferrypip,
Yep, sailed as 3rd Mate in the Comedian and the Planter in 1949/50.
' Twin-screw Wells' was Master of Comedian. So called because he was the father of twins. And yes, I found them good feeders.
Allan

Norm
3rd February 2009, 04:46
I remember Billy Finn, he was the "runner". Used to come on board whenever possible and liked a drink with us. S.E. Canada 2 Dock office and Water Street head office.

Fieldsy
3rd February 2009, 10:03
Hello and welcome to SN. I sailed with T&J from 1973 till 1977. VESSELS:
DALESMAN, LINGUIST, ADMINISTRATOR, MAGICIAN, PLAINSMAN. DISCOVERER, MERCHANT. EXPLORER, SPECIALIST, BENEFACTOR, ADVENTURER. Good company to work for, Billy Finn in the personnel was a great guy does anyone know what happened to him.

John,
Billy was at the reunion dinner last November - and Stuart Blythe - but didn't see them in the pub afterwards, which was the only bit I went to.

David Williams
3rd February 2009, 15:26
Hi bejidog.
The "two of fat and one of lean" refered to the
funnel markings:-Thick White
Thin Red
Thick White.......on a Black funnel

daishop1

Fieldsy
3rd February 2009, 15:35
Hi bejidog.
The "two of fat and one of lean" refered to the
funnel markings:-Thick White
Thin Red
Thick White.......on a Black funnel

daishop1

I'd always thought so too, but if you look at pictures of ships the width of the red and white bands appears to be the same.

stan mayes
3rd February 2009, 16:14
I think 'Two of fat and one of lean' refers to meat.
The white is fat and red is raw meat.
My memory has it that I was told this many years ago..
Stan

Mimcoman
4th February 2009, 11:42
.....I have met capt Trainor and chief steward Alf Eady ex T&J at the Indefatigable old boys Liverpool branch and we are grateful for Harrisons support to the old school....... Tom Roberts

Hello, Tom:

I was a Sparks with T&J from 1973-1979 and met Alf Eady and his good wife on the Astronomer. If you meet up with him again, pass on Bill Smith's best regards and ask him if he still manages to read morse. Many thanks.

Fieldsy
4th February 2009, 12:20
I think 'Two of fat and one of lean' refers to meat.
The white is fat and red is raw meat.
My memory has it that I was told this many years ago..
Stan

I think you are right, Stan. The funnel markings story has been repeated so many times over the years that it became the 'truth'.

Perhaps two of fat and one of lean refers to streaky bacon?

Gerry Whitehead
5th February 2009, 15:46
Hi John; Re :Billy Finn he left Harrisons Personel Dept for a better job with Globtik Tankers in their personel dept ( I think) He is now retired & living in
Flintshire North Wales, he comes every year to the Harrison Line reunions at the Adelphi
Besy Wishes Gerry

Fieldsy
5th February 2009, 17:49
Hi John; Re :Billy Finn he left Harrisons Personel Dept for a better job with Globtik Tankers in their personel dept ( I think) He is now retired & living in
Flintshire North Wales, he comes every year to the Harrison Line reunions at the Adelphi
Besy Wishes Gerry

Gerry,
Responded to the email you sent me but it bounced back. Is your mailbox full?

Is Billy Finn's main claim to fame still that he went out with Cilla Black? Think I'd have kept that quite myself!

John Glover
7th February 2009, 04:32
Hi John; Re :Billy Finn he left Harrisons Personel Dept for a better job with Globtik Tankers in their personel dept ( I think) He is now retired & living in
Flintshire North Wales, he comes every year to the Harrison Line reunions at the Adelphi
Besy Wishes Gerry

Hi Gerry, many thanks for the info. Glad to hear billy is OK. Someone on here described him as a "runner". All i know was he had his finger on the pulse in the office far better than some i could mention. When you think of the number of ships and the vast numbers of personnel involved, you only had to ask him where someone was and he would tell you, straight off the top of his head.
Regards
john glover(Smoke) (Smoke) (Smoke)

Gerry Whitehead
7th February 2009, 15:48
Yes John I coulnt agree with you more Billy Finn was by far the best personel man Harrisons had & lots of people were extremely sad when he left.We were left with a few Dead Beats in personel,
Gerry

John Glover
7th February 2009, 16:53
John,
Billy was at the reunion dinner last November - and Stuart Blythe - but didn't see them in the pub afterwards, which was the only bit I went to.

Thanks for the info Kev, gerry has also posted.
regards
john glover(Smoke) (Smoke) (Smoke)

tom roberts
7th February 2009, 20:29
Harrisons were also called the apple daddy boats any one out there can remember this term being used and why?. Tom Roberts.

tom roberts
7th February 2009, 21:54
Re My Last posting just spoken to Alf Eady ex chief steward apple daddy was dished up religiously thursday and saturday on all T&J ships hence the name Apple Daddy boats and he above all should know, for those not enlightend apple daddy is apple pie.Ferrypip check your private mail for Alfs reply. Tom Roberts

Dave Woods
7th February 2009, 22:56
Re My Last posting just spoken to Alf Eady ex chief steward apple daddy was dished up religiously thursday and saturday on all T&J ships hence the name Apple Daddy boats and he above all should know, for those not enlightend apple daddy is apple pie.Ferrypip check your private mail for Alfs reply. Tom Roberts

Long time since I saw Alf and Muriel, 1973 on the Benefactor if the old grey cells are working correctly.(A)

Allan Wareing
6th March 2009, 12:44
I think you are right, Stan. The funnel markings story has been repeated so many times over the years that it became the 'truth'.

Perhaps two of fat and one of lean refers to streaky bacon?

Fieldsy, indeed it does refer to streaky bacon. In fact the red was more pinkish like the colour of bacon and I have a hazy memory that they were refered to as Bacon boats but not entiely sure. The attached pic of Planter seems to confirm that the bands were of equal thickness.
Seems hard to believe that it was 58 years ago.
Regards Allan.
p.s. I think 'salmon pink would be about right ,Allan

Peter (Pat) Baker
13th May 2009, 13:25
Hello Ferrypip.
I was with T&J as Purser 1957-1966.

An excellent company, great trips and damned good feeders.

Cheers,
Pat Baker.

chrisvic
15th May 2009, 12:53
Welcome from Lancashire.
I hope you will enjoy the site.

For the benefit of the uninitiated, can you explain the expression "Two of fat, one of lean" please?

Two of fat and one of lean refers I believe (A bit like streaky bacon) to the funnel markings, I only did one trip with Harrisons, on the Custodian. She was the worst feeding ship I ever sailed on. I was 2nd steward, and after we took the stores on I said to the boss. "That's the port order aboard, when do we get the deep sea order? he replied, "You've just got it!" I can still recall counting 12 tins of peas, 14 pkts of cornflakes. And for the officers supper sandwiches, 24 jars of fish paste and 24 jars of meat paste. Fantastic grub even for 1963. Never again I'm glad to say.

TERRY REYNOLDS
20th January 2012, 21:59
Hello and welcome to SN. I sailed with T&J from 1973 till 1977. VESSELS:
DALESMAN, LINGUIST, ADMINISTRATOR, MAGICIAN, PLAINSMAN. DISCOVERER, MERCHANT. EXPLORER, SPECIALIST, BENEFACTOR, ADVENTURER. Good company to work for, Billy Finn in the personnel was a great guy does anyone know what happened to him.

Hi john your name sounds familier, sailed with Harrisons for 7years as second cook

kypros
20th January 2012, 23:33
Hi To All Harrisons Ex Personel I Realise This Is A Very Long Shot Could Anybody Put Me In The Direction Of Harrisons Records Reguarding There War Time Crew Losses.my Wife Lost A Step-brother On A Harrison Ship Early In The War We Only Know His First Name Was David And Was 16 Years Old First Tripper Possibly A Deck Boy Or Pantry Boy.her Father Now Deceased Was Always Reluctant To Speak Of It As He Was From A Relationship Before He Married Her Mother.i Did Try To Coax More Information From Him When He Was Alive All I Ever Got Was That The Ship Was Sunk In The West Indies Area My Wife Arrived Shortly After His Loss.i Believe Her Father Never Spoke Out Of Sadness And Deference To Her Mother As He Never Had A Son Just Two Daughters.if Anyone As Information On Records I Would Be Grateful. Thank You All Kypros