Nice to see common sense still is alive in the Old Dart

dcm
11th July 2018, 01:37
A friend sent me this link I saw this on the BBC News App and thought you should see it

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-44780708

Sir David Attenborough polar ship ready for launch
The UK's new 200m polar research ship is on the slipway ready to go in the River Mersey.


What a surprise that England is building it's own research ship at Cammell Lairds and they are still operating ... Australia has lost most of it's steel shipbuilding and is building it's RSV Nuyina at Damen Shipyards in Romania.

Australia is bemoaning it now lacks the skills to build the new Navy vessels it wants and maybe will have to reintroduce the courses into the TAFE system which is EQUIVALENT TO the old Technical college system I once knew as an apprentice in the UK. in the late 50's.. They call it progress but I think thats a bit of a misnomer.

What is also interesting is that the launch will be on the tellie at 11 on Saturday and on the net as well https://www.bas.ac.uk/media/creative-services/live/

Might be of interest to those who have experienced launches before and those who never have

Pat Kennedy
11th July 2018, 20:19
It is good to see Cammell Laird resuming normal service and starting to build ships again after a hiatus of 25 years during which time the yard has been basically a ship repair facility, diversifying into wind turbine construction and nuclear engineering.
I was present during several launches back in the time when Lairds was very busy, and worked there on and off until 1979.
Here is a link to a website showing a complete list of every ship built in the yard from 1829 right through to HMS Unicorn in 1992.

http://oceania.pbworks.com/w/page/8450793/Cammell%20Laird

stevekelly10
11th July 2018, 22:13
I just hope they have remembered to put all the plugs in the ship's bottom :)

dcm
11th July 2018, 22:53
A mate has raised another point re the British research vessel and I quote Derek

We keep being told there will be no ice in the Artic in the next few years so why have they gone to the extra expenses of building it to icebreaker class ?

Regards

Any suggestions

Varley
11th July 2018, 23:44
She is for the British Antarctic Survey. You lot in the Arctic get your own McBoatie.

dcm
12th July 2018, 00:12
What an impressive list Pat Kennedy has posted

D1566
12th July 2018, 07:15
It is good to see Cammell Laird resuming normal service and starting to build ships again after a hiatus of 25 years during which time the yard has been basically a ship repair facility, diversifying into wind turbine construction and nuclear engineering.
I was present during several launches back in the time when Lairds was very busy, and worked there on and off until 1979.
Here is a link to a website showing a complete list of every ship built in the yard from 1829 right through to HMS Unicorn in 1992.

http://oceania.pbworks.com/w/page/8450793/Cammell%20Laird
Fascinating list , thanks.
Noted that they built relatively few sailing ships even going back to the early 19th Century.
Interesting to see that HM Government was ordering Tank Landing Ships as early as 1940/1 ... planning ahead.

Pat Kennedy
12th July 2018, 19:26
Here is a link to a very interesting BBC news clip concerning Cammell Laird and its contribution to the war effort.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-merseyside-22649482/cammell-laird-the-shipyard-that-won-the-atlantic

BobClay
12th July 2018, 20:38
I wish I'd heard about the launch earlier as I'd have booked a weekend up there and watched that.
Sadly I learned about it too late and I'm already occupied now with some schoolwork for this weekend, but seeing a ship launch on the Mersey is something I'd like to have seen.
That ship definitely looks the business (Thumb)

stevekelly10
13th July 2018, 21:48
If you want to watch the launch there is a live stream available from about 11.00 am on Saturday at https://www.bas.ac.uk/media/creative-services/live/ :)

Pat Kennedy
14th July 2018, 19:58
If you want to watch the launch there is a live stream available from about 11.00 am on Saturday at https://www.bas.ac.uk/media/creative-services/live/ :)

Thanks for the link Steve, I watched it twice!(Thumb)

Stephen J. Card
14th July 2018, 20:27
A mate has raised another point re the British research vessel and I quote Derek

We keep being told there will be no ice in the Artic in the next few years so why have they gone to the extra expenses of building it to icebreaker class ?

Regards

Any suggestions


Ice Class? Look at the side of the hull. Just built and you can see all her frames. I've seen an Ethiopian hide his bones than this ship. Looks Paper Class not Ice Class.

Ron Stringer
14th July 2018, 23:59
A mate has raised another point re the British research vessel and I quote Derek

We keep being told there will be no ice in the Artic in the next few years so why have they gone to the extra expenses of building it to icebreaker class ?

Regards

Any suggestions

But the vessel is to be used by the British Antarctic Survey and there is plenty of ice down there.

Harry Nicholson
15th July 2018, 09:14
https://youtu.be/fjRkywzKDYs
It shows a time lapse of the build. Fascinating.

BobClay
15th July 2018, 09:43
https://youtu.be/fjRkywzKDYs
It shows a time lapse of the build. Fascinating.

WOW .. absolutely amazing. (Applause)

Pat Kennedy
15th July 2018, 10:04
https://youtu.be/fjRkywzKDYs
It shows a time lapse of the build. Fascinating.


we never worked that fast when I was there!(Jester)

dcm
15th July 2018, 22:33
But the vessel is to be used by the British Antarctic Survey and there is plenty of ice down there.



Ron , What do you mean down there . see for the real world https://www.flourish.org/upsidedownmapimages/diversophy-large.jpg

BobClay
15th July 2018, 22:59
I hear it here, I hear it there
Spherical heresy everywhere … :sweat:

spongebob
15th July 2018, 23:35
Ice Class? Look at the side of the hull. Just built and you can see all her frames. I've seen an Ethiopian hide his bones than this ship. Looks Paper Class not Ice Class.

I believe 'ice class' is different to 'ice breaker class' . Ice class ships are strong enough to push the floes aside or break thin ice whereas the ic breaker has a heavier hull and special shape to allow the bow to climb up onto a thick ice shelf and crush it by rapidly pumping ballast into forepeak tanks to add weight.
There is an excellent film somewhere on the net showing a red painted USA Navy icebreaker performing this task

Bob

dcm
16th July 2018, 00:25
did anyone watch the launch ????? it's at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm9Lw2zi-tM...…. It's not What I would call " a pretty looking vessel " but I assume it's designer likes loves it

Stephen J. Card
16th July 2018, 01:28
I believe 'ice class' is different to 'ice breaker class' . Ice class ships are strong enough to push the floes aside or break thin ice whereas the ic breaker has a heavier hull and special shape to allow the bow to climb up onto a thick ice shelf and crush it by rapidly pumping ballast into forepeak tanks to add weight.
There is an excellent film somewhere on the net showing a red painted USA Navy icebreaker performing this task

Bob


Yes, I know the difference. The photo I saw was not the 'red hulled' Survey Vessel. The story I saw about the vessel showed a grey hulled 'destroyer' type showing just the bow and thin hull type vessel. I had not seen any of the other photos. My mistake.

Stephen

tugger
16th July 2018, 02:33
Great time laps video Harry, thanks for putting it on. Down here in Aus we have lost the art of building Merchant ships a lot of the old welders and steel men have passed on instead of them passing on their knowledge, due to short sighted Governments, we are now at the mercy of Asian shipping.
tugger

Barrie Youde
16th July 2018, 08:28
#14 (https://www.shipsnostalgia.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=14)

What a wonderful video!

Thank you, Harry!

BobClay
16th July 2018, 10:02
@20 ... that's a good video too.

Excellent to see the launch from that angle. (Applause)

Barrie Youde
16th July 2018, 10:33
Thank you, Bob - and dcm, too!