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ramerine
14th September 2005, 03:46
Hello everyone,

My name is Ralph and I happened across this site while looking for pictures and information about a Messagaries Maritime ship called the Said and one of her captains named M. Girard.

I haven't had much success finding anything on M. Girard and only marginal success on the ship.

I know the following:

1,744 gross tons, length 275.5ft x beam 32.8ft, clipper bows, one funnel, three masts (rigged for sail), single screw, speed 11 knots. Launched 18th Oct.1863 at La Ciotat for Messageries Maritimes, M****illes, one of three sister ships (SAID, MOERIS and PELUSE) for the company's Mediterranean services. 1869 lengthened to 328.8ft, 1,829 tons. 25th Oct.1869 suffered an engine breakdown and towed to ALEXANDRIA by LA SEYNE for repairs. Feb.1890 sold for 105,000 French francs and scrapped at M****illes.

At this point I'd be thrilled to find a good quality picture/drawing of one of her sister ships. It would be fantastic if there were a model of it I could get but I'm not holding my breath on that one.

If anyone out there has any thoughts or suggestions on how I find more information I'd be most appreciative.


If you've read this far, thanks for your indulgence.

Regards,
Ralph

thunderd
14th September 2005, 05:12
Ralph I'm afraid I can't help you but I'm pretty sure someone on the site will, they are a very knowledgable lot. In the meantime I'd like to offer you a warm welcome to the site and hope you enjoy it.

ruud
14th September 2005, 08:42
Ahoy Ralph,
Voilà, here's the PELUSE, and as you said, they were "sisterships", couldn't find a photo, so a painting/drawing must do.

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/396/peluse1en.th.jpg (http://img378.imageshack.us/my.php?image=peluse1en.jpg)

R58484956
14th September 2005, 12:59
Welcome to the site ralph, you are now amongst the sea loving fraternity, enjoy the site.

ramerine
14th September 2005, 13:25
Thanks for the warm welcome and speedy replies everyone!

ruud? I'm probably missing something something obvious, but I can't see or find the painting/drawing you referred to. Should I be looking in a particular place?


Thanks again!
Ralph

ruud
14th September 2005, 13:29
Ahoy Ralph,
I'll do it this way, this will be "big" enough?
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/396/peluse1en.jpg

ramerine
14th September 2005, 13:41
Ah, I see. I had two issues. For some reason Mozilla wasn't displaying the image box (link) but IE does. The second issue is that I'm doing this from work and they are blocking me from the picture site.

No worries, I'll take a look when I get home today.

Thanks again ruud! I appreciate the help!


Regards,
Ralph

ruud
14th September 2005, 13:48
Ahoy Ralph,
Well I can do it this way as well, if you're not allowed to see pictures at work, it's not a "dirty" picture (*)) , you may tell the "boss" (Ouch)
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/396/peluse1en.jpg

ramerine
14th September 2005, 14:08
The block actually blocks the picture from being displayed and it blocks me from going to imageshack. I've got a way to get around that though so I'll probably give it a go at lunch.
;)


Thanks again!
Ralph

John Rogers
14th September 2005, 20:20
Thats a nice looking picture,it would look great in a frame on anyones wall.

ramerine
15th September 2005, 02:26
I agree John, thanks again ruud!

If anyone else happens to stumble across any more pictures/drawings, or information about the Said's travels or captain Girard I'd appreciate the help.

Cheers all!

Ralph

ruud
15th September 2005, 07:35
Ahoy John,
Here you are, just make a copy and on your wall, indeed it looks great. (*)) (Applause)
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/6365/peluseframe6yq.th.jpg (http://img384.imageshack.us/my.php?image=peluseframe6yq.jpg)

NGPARIS
15th September 2005, 09:46
Bonjour Ralph,
The drawing of the Peluse was done by Jean Traynier and you can find this on Philippe Ramona's site www.es-conseil.fr/pramona/peluse.html. Monsieur Ramona has an excellent site on the history of Messageries Maritime in both french and english.
Hope this is of interest to all ship lovers.
NGPARIS

ramerine
15th September 2005, 15:23
Bonjour NGPARIS,

Thanks for supplying the name of the artist! I think I'll do a search on Jean Traynier, see if I can find any other works out there to go with that one.

I've visited that site during my inital searches and your right about it being an excellent one. I must not have been searching for the Peluse when I stumbled across his site and missed that drawing.

I sent Monsieur Ramona an email to ask for suggestions on how to proceed further but didn't hear back from him Sey la vi. I'm still appreciative of the information I found there.


Regards,
Ralph

ruud
15th September 2005, 15:49
Sey la vi.
Regards,
Ralph

Ahoy Ralph,
What about "C'est la vie"? (*)) Sans rancune!!! (*))

NGPARIS
15th September 2005, 16:05
Salut Ralph,
Be patient for a reply from Monsieur Ramona. I sent some photos of the burnt out hull of the former Vietnam in Singapore harbour taken back in the early seventies and it took several weeks before I had a reply. Better late than never as the photos are now on his excellent site. Hope you have the same luck.
Amitiés NGPARIS

ramerine
15th September 2005, 19:33
Hmph. See, I knew if I threw in sey la vi, which I actually took the time to check the spelling on, I'd end up getting myself in trouble. Sans Rancune? Any relation to Rocky Racoon? You got me ruud!

(Ralph pops out to google to find a translation...sans rancune..."without grudge"... from my seat it was "without understanding". Brief pause here to stop chuckling.) :)


Hello again NGPARIS,

Thanks for the advice about being patient with Monsieur Ramona. Even if he doesn't reply, I'm still grateful for the information I found on his website.

Cheers,
Ralph

ruud
15th September 2005, 20:21
Ahoy Ralph,
I don't know exactly, but I think it should be something like "without resentment", my French is still better than my English, but I'll keep on working on that.It's about 45 yrs ago since I left school.

terence
15th September 2005, 23:24
nice i all

crepin
20th July 2006, 16:15
Hello everyone,

My name is Ralph and I happened across this site while looking for pictures and information about a Messagaries Maritime ship called the Said and one of her captains named M. Girard.

I haven't had much success finding anything on M. Girard and only marginal success on the ship.

I know the following:

1,744 gross tons, length 275.5ft x beam 32.8ft, clipper bows, one funnel, three masts (rigged for sail), single screw, speed 11 knots. Launched 18th Oct.1863 at La Ciotat for Messageries Maritimes, M****illes, one of three sister ships (SAID, MOERIS and PELUSE) for the company's Mediterranean services. 1869 lengthened to 328.8ft, 1,829 tons. 25th Oct.1869 suffered an engine breakdown and towed to ALEXANDRIA by LA SEYNE for repairs. Feb.1890 sold for 105,000 French francs and scrapped at M****illes.

At this point I'd be thrilled to find a good quality picture/drawing of one of her sister ships. It would be fantastic if there were a model of it I could get but I'm not holding my breath on that one.

If anyone out there has any thoughts or suggestions on how I find more information I'd be most appreciative.


If you've read this far, thanks for your indulgence.

Regards,
Ralph
May be you will find something on http://www.messageries-maritimes.org.
Bye and good luck

benjidog
20th July 2006, 17:02
Ramarine has not logged on to the site since 13 February but thanks for making the effort Crepin.

Regards,

Brian

john shaw
20th July 2006, 17:03
try this url

http://www.es-conseil.fr/pramona/said.htm

for a photo. regards