Dutch or German passenger ship?

18th March 2010, 10:14

I am wondering if anybody recoqnizes the ship on this painting?

Painted by the German painter Gustav Lüttgens, and probably done 1925-1935.


K urgess
18th March 2010, 11:18
Welcome aboard from northern England.
I'm sure someone will be able to help you.
Find your way around and get to know the crew.
Have a good voyage.

fred henderson
18th March 2010, 14:30
A warm welcome Schabbach. The ship looks like one of the NDL transatlantic liners, Bremen or Europa, after their funnels were increased in height.

18th March 2010, 16:26
Greetings Schabbach and welcome to SN. Bon voyage.

18th March 2010, 16:28
Thank you both for your warm welcome :)

I am very glad that you were able to identify the ship, Fred. Is it known when the funnels were increased?

18th March 2010, 16:29
Thanks R58484956 :)

18th March 2010, 19:33
I found the answer on Wikipedia: "the funnels were raised by five meters in 1930".


Jan Hendrik
19th March 2010, 00:58
Bremen and Europa together.

Frank P
19th March 2010, 12:08
Welcome onboard Schabach, enjoy the site.

Mfg Frank

fred henderson
19th March 2010, 18:31
Bremen and Europa together.

The photo was taken before the funnels were raised. You can see the smoke problem that led to the change.

19th March 2010, 18:59
Thank you Jan Hendrik. Interesting photo.

Thanks Frank P :)

I examined the back of the painting closely today, and found a small note (stuck between the back frame and the canvas).


Jan Hendrik
20th March 2010, 00:20
Hi Frank,

I found a series of photos of this vessel, unknown photographer(s).
Hereby another few.
The drydocking took place in Southampton , don,t know which year.
This is a promotional photo by the Owners I think as it concerns a postcard.
The second photo shows the raised funnels as per Fred 's posting.

19th June 2010, 15:17
What a lovely painting, I know you enjoy it; the BREMEN is a personal favorite. Here's another image for your files...


5th September 2011, 19:32
For anyone interested I have today posted a photo of MV Europa that I took in New York in 1972 at the end of one of her last regular transatlantic crossings.
She was transferred to Hapag Lloyd around this time from NDL and received a change of livery shortly after this time.


fred henderson
6th September 2011, 16:17
The ship in your photo is a different liner that was built in Holland for Swedish America Line as Kungsholm and delivered in 1953. She was sold to NDL in 1964 and renamed Europa. Hamburg-America and NDL amalgamated in 1970 to form Hapag-Lloyd AG. The company continues to use the name Europa for its ultra-luxurious cruise ship.