Ellerman Wilson/Papayani Line Ships

The Loftsman
16th October 2011, 20:18
Hello All,
Looking for stories from any who sailed on the following ships built at the Leith Shipyards of Henry Robb in Scotland, the website is building slowly and needs the input of ex sailors now to help keep the ships alive .
The ships that were built include
Yard No Name
355 TINTO
356 TRURO
357 BRAVO
358 SILVIO
359 DARINIAN
360 PALMELIAN
406 CAVALLO
407 TRENTINO
437 CICERO
438 ROLLO
439 TEANO
445 FLAMINIAN
462 MALATIAN
463 CATANIAN
471 AARO
472 RAPALLO
473 ARCADIAN
495 SALERNO
496 SALMO
497 SORRENTO
498 SILVIO
499 SANGRO
501 ATHENIAN
503 MEDITERRANIAN

A fair list you will see and if you also happen to have any photographs you wish to have shown on the website then all the better.

Thanks for your help.

JoeQ
17th October 2011, 17:47
I was 3rd Mate on the 497 SORRENTO, 501 ATHENIAN and 503 MEDITERRANIAN in 1974 - 75. Nice ships, Meddy with Naffi stores and general then, usually, cirus fruit home from Isreal. Did a cargo of onions to Marsailles and boxwood from Lexios in between

Donnie More
17th October 2011, 19:54
I did three european / uk coasts on these , around 1975 between deep seas on the bigger City boats , Salerno which became City of Athens , and City of Valletta , I heard some did a stint to montreal / hudson bay in summer time with ships staff working the cargo discharge .
One I joined in Glasgow , the catering staff knew they were all finished when they docked, due to trouble during the Meddi trip , so apart from all cutlery and plates going over the wall , the galley was sabotaged and the leckie gear got the heavy end .
good crowds and ships to sail on all the same ,

tom roberts
17th October 2011, 21:00
Sailed on the Anglian as s.o.s.4 on 4 off for 6 week trips up the Medi besides doing my watch I still had to do the peggies work never ben so knackerd in my life, did 2 trips left her to get my e.d.h.managed to scrape thro, also sailed around the land on the City of Khartoum in April the temprature in our cabin was up in the 70s and the mate asked me if I wanted to stay on her deep sea no fear said I getting baked alive was not on my agenda plus the food was not up to much and as for the asian cooks they made the lousiest curries Ive ever tasted.

The Loftsman
11th November 2011, 22:46
Thanks for the reply's and I shall be in touch when i can

Johnny Walker
12th November 2011, 09:50
I did the last trip on the Cicero, I joined her in the west india dock in London for about a six week trip round the med. with 12 passengers then back to the U.K. in time for a dock strike. After finally discharging the cargo a few of us stood by her getting the ship ready for sale to new Turkish owners. She was a great little ship.

Puffin's skipper
22nd November 2011, 17:01
What happened to the Rialto? No mention of her.. I did a Great Lakes trip on her around 1962 for grain, aged about 15, first trip as a sailors peggy..
As I remember it,
Hull - Aberdeen - Quebec - Montreal, -Toronto, - Hamilton - Aberden - Hull
I paid off with about a tenner and an AB on the beach 'helped' me spend it before I even got on the train home..

The Loftsman
20th January 2012, 02:08
Sorry Puffin,
How could i forget, thanks for the info.

Cheers


What happened to the Rialto? No mention of her.. I did a Great Lakes trip on her around 1962 for grain, aged about 15, first trip as a sailors peggy..
As I remember it,
Hull - Aberdeen - Quebec - Montreal, -Toronto, - Hamilton - Aberden - Hull
I paid off with about a tenner and an AB on the beach 'helped' me spend it before I even got on the train home..

Aberdonian
20th January 2012, 10:41
What happened to the Rialto? No mention of her.. I did a Great Lakes trip on her around 1962 for grain, aged about 15, first trip as a sailors peggy..
As I remember it,
Hull - Aberdeen - Quebec - Montreal, -Toronto, - Hamilton - Aberden - Hull
I paid off with about a tenner and an AB on the beach 'helped' me spend it before I even got on the train home..

The regular sight of either the “Consuelo”, “Marengo” or “Rialto” alongside the grain berth in early 50’s Aberdeen was an influence in my decision to go deep sea. Smart looking ships.

Aberdonian

ALLAN WILD
20th January 2012, 11:28
Hi
I was in Rollo 1966 the year of the strike. When you shipped out of Hull in those days it was impossible to get a job on any of the 10 day boats, but as soon as they changed the articles to FG there were plenty of jobs, and thats what they did. The ship would have become strike bound, so they sent her down the Medy for 6 weeks.
As soon as she came back to Hull we were sacked and the old crew joined her again on the 10 day run to Gothenburg.
I was also on Rialto 67/68 we did a 4 month trip down to Rio, Santos, wast coast of SA.
Bassano in 64/65 did the west coast of Africa. Happy days.

patprouse
3rd July 2012, 16:34
I did my first trip as deckboy on the Rollo straight from the Vindicatrix sea school on 1st Jan 1965. I was sick as a dog all the way
there and back to Gothenburg and swore I would not go on another ship again but the call of the sea could not keep me away and after that I sailed on the Cavallo,Marengo,Rialto,Cicero,Turo,Rollo.
I finished my seagoing career in 1986 as a Radio Op.

Hugh Ferguson
11th April 2013, 04:39
My uncle, Wullie Wilson, was an engineer in the Lesbian in 1917.

slick
11th April 2013, 08:45
All,
There would appear to be couple of Ellerman Wilson names missing from the original list.
The SMOKO the BRASSO and the F--------O.
Offered in the interests of Nautical nicknames.

Yours aye,


slick

Aberdonian
11th April 2013, 12:21
The Lucian was a regular sight in the London St Katherines Dock when she was on the London – Lisbon run in 63/64. At that time I was on the same trade in the MacAndrews vessel Pozarica.

Aberdonian

CaptainG
17th February 2014, 19:48
I sailed on the: Silvio, Flaminian, Athenian, and a couple or three more that had their names changed to City Of *.*, in mid 70's. I sailed with Wilsons and Pappy's through the 70's including a coastal on one of the larger City Liners....Good old days to the Meddy and back....Finished up on Pappy's Hustler Class before being made redundant in 1979. Oh, I was on the Athenian (I think it was renamed, City of Valetta") when we nearly sunk just off Finisterre and had to seek refuge in Vego Spain under escort from a salvage Tug. (May have been Silvio (City of Patras) though, my wife was with me at the time...memory is slipping).....Another Company ship had big problems in the Bay of Biscay on the same day, or rather during the night, due to the heavy weather, it had called for assistance a few hours before we did. I sent out the Mayday Call, the Captains name escapes me, but he was a tall well built fellow, with white hair, smoked a pipe, quiet spoken and appeared quite nervous. (Capt. White...maybe his name)...Apologies for any confusion caused with ships name for that incident......I'll have to find my old discharge book.

Vic Heaney
4th May 2019, 09:14
I was R/O on the Marengo from Hull to various ports in the USA for several round trips in 1958. Captain David Stokes and his wife (back in UK) were so keen on The Archers" that he asked me not to transmit while the programme was on Radio 4 - then the Home Service, I think. While we were in USA, with the Long Wave signal lost, his wife would write to keep him up to date.

price
4th May 2019, 14:00
The Lucian was a regular sight in the London St Katherines Dock when she was on the London – Lisbon run in 63/64. At that time I was on the same trade in the MacAndrews vessel Pozarica.

Aberdonian
I sailed in the Lucian through that period, we used to sail between London Dock, Oporto (Vilanova de ghaia) Leixoes and every other trip down to Cadiz in addition. I was in the ship until her sale in May 1964.

Aberdonian
4th May 2019, 15:50
I stand corrected, price, in thinking the Lucian had a regular Lisbon destination at that time.

Keith

gypcoll
17th May 2019, 10:44
I sailed on three Ellerman Payani ships, the Andalusian, Egyptian, Lancastrian, all in the early 60s. My memory fades with advancing years, but i am sure i remember, apart from a full English breakfast every morning, there was a curry on offer. Perhaps someone can confirm if this was normal practice on all those ships.

Venetian
1st November 2019, 19:38
I sailed on three Ellerman Payani ships, the Andalusian, Egyptian, Lancastrian, all in the early 60s. My memory fades with advancing years, but i am sure i remember, apart from a full English breakfast every morning, there was a curry on offer. Perhaps someone can confirm if this was normal practice on all those ships.

They certainly were on the City of Leeds/GJGV ex Venetian on passage to Borneo in '64. Four courses if I remember correctly, the second being a curry. It was old GJGV's first trip East of Suez so we had thermo jugs for water, and Roses Limejuice. We ran out of cans of Bitter Lemon before we got to Aden. Then out of Roses, so we opened the Board of Trade Limejuice. Fantastic, the Red Sea heat was bearable thanks to the BOT. Discharged overnight in Aden, the winch over number three hatch directly over my ex passenger cabin.... we also had a German Shephard dog with us on its way to Singapore. Adventure for a 19 year old Marconi R/O on his first ship on his own (previously 5th then 4th on Orcades). Do youngsters have the same chances of adventure these days?
Cheers,
Roger Taylor

P.Arnold
2nd November 2019, 13:34
One ship I don’t see in the various reminiscents is the Florian.
She was on a regular monthly round trip to Beirut picking up carrots, potatoes and Keo cream sherry from Cyprus. Regular trippers called it the scouse run. This would have been ‘68.

Pat Kennedy
2nd November 2019, 14:27
One ship I don’t see in the various reminiscents is the Florian.
She was on a regular monthly round trip to Beirut picking up carrots, potatoes and Keo cream sherry from Cyprus. Regular trippers called it the scouse run. This would have been ‘68.

Yes, I was in the Florian in 1963, a bit of a comedown after Blue Funnel. Sailors accomodation directly above the steering flat where lived a ferocious clanking monster of a steering engine which put paid to any thoughts of peaceful sleep.