Corvettes At War

cshortridge73
28th July 2012, 11:36
With Adolf Hitler's clenched fist extolling the supremacy of his undersea marauders in 1938, the Royal Navy came to a stark realization -it was woefully unprepared to fight a submarine war.

Though Great Britain possessed the world's greatest Naval fleet, the tradition-bound Lords of the Admiralty overlooked the fact that spread as its responsibilities were across the globe, it now had to defend its far-flung dominions against enemies technologically advanced over any ever fought before. By 1938 it was readily apparent that the flimsy aircraft and vulnerable submarines of the Great War of 1914-18 had developed into formidable long-range weapons now able to decimate entire cities and fleets. The era when proud warships and sword-wielding cavalry could dominate world politics had come to an end. Not without reluctance, the British Admiralty admitted the war of the future would be fought in the sky and beneath, as well as on the sea


So it was late in 1938 that Royal Navy planners came to the conclusion the British Fleet seriously lacked ships able to wage coastal or ocean warfare against Hitler's growing armada of more than 600 swift, deadly, long-ranged U-boats. Despite the Royal Navy's awesome number of destroyers with suitable anti-submarine weaponry, these fleet-footed greyhounds were needed to protect the equally awesome number of capital surface warships. The dismal truth was that no single, capable, coastal or ocean-going anti-submarine escort vessel existed in suitable numbers within the Royal Navy.
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You can get to the link: HERE (http://navalmerchantshiparticles.blogspot.com/2012/07/corvettes-at-war.html)

Bud Shortridge

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stores
28th July 2012, 12:10
Hi , The Link did not work for me ?

cshortridge73
28th July 2012, 12:21
I just checked the link..........and it is working. Tell you what, try it again...if it does not work again for you... e-mail me and I'll be glad to send you the "URL" to the article or...if you wish I'll send you the article is a .pdf format....

My e-mail is [email protected]

billyboy
28th July 2012, 12:45
Interesting read. Thanks for sharing that with us Bob

Hugh Ferguson
28th July 2012, 20:54
See HERE (http://www.shipsnostalgia.tv/members/action/viewvideo/1695/Captain_Walker_s_funeral/) for the funeral of the man who was a 'passed' over (for promotion) R.N. officer who , when he eventually got to sea, transformed the methods for hunting down and sinking U.Boats.
The unfortunate design feature of the Corvettes was they did not have enough speed to overtake a U.boat escaping on the surface. Walker's group were in sloops. Just five months before he died of a stroke, his group had dispatched six U.boats in one patrol, ending in a triumphant return and being cheered into the Gladstone Dock, Liverpool by virtually all of the Navy people based in Liverpool! (Also to be seen on the T.V. file-'Starling arrives Liverpool').

(He was passed over for promotion because he had specialised in an unpopular speciality-ASW (Anti Submarine Warfare).

chadburn
30th July 2012, 15:39
Hugh is correct of course, the Corvette did not have the speed or the "loiter" fuel capacity for what was required for chasing after U Boat's in the North Atlantic, they only had enough range to do the crossing in one direction plus 15% which led Smith's to design their Frigate.

Union Jack
30th July 2012, 17:11
He was passed over for promotion because he had specialised in an unpopular speciality-ASW (Anti Submarine Warfare)

Whilst regretting that he was not promoted to the rank of Captain earlier, we can only be grateful that he did so specialise, and it is just so sad that Captain Walker "died of overstrain, overwork and war weariness; body and mind had been driven beyond all normal limits in the service of his country", as further described at:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/stories/45/a5104045.shtml

I served with his younger son, Alan, and had the honour of escorting Mrs Walker at celebrations of the 25th Anniversary of the Turning of the Battle of the Atlantic.

Jack

lesbryan
30th July 2012, 17:13
There is a very good book called echo of a flower if not read i recomend a read

Coastie
30th July 2012, 17:33
He was passed over for promotion because he had specialised in an unpopular speciality-ASW (Anti Submarine Warfare)

Whilst regretting that he was not promoted to the rank of Captain earlier, we can only be grateful that he did so specialise, and it is just so sad that Captain Walker "died of overstrain, overwork and war weariness; body and mind had been driven beyond all normal limits in the service of his country", as further described at:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/stories/45/a5104045.shtml

I served with his younger son, Alan, and had the honour of escorting Mrs Walker at celebrations of the 25th Anniversary of the Turning of the Battle of the Atlantic.

Jack

Interesting, although sad, reading, thankyou for posting it.

Hugh Ferguson
30th July 2012, 20:58
That's fascinating, Coastie, her name was Eileen: did she make any mention to you of her eldest son who was lost in a submarine in the Meddy I believe. A very brave lady indeed:what an ordeal, after losing a son with no known grave but the sea, to have to then witness your husband's burial at sea knowing that you will never have the comfort even of going to a grave to place flowers.

RayL
30th July 2012, 22:06
A thread like this would be incomplete without mentioning Nicholas Monsarrat's 1951 book 'The Cruel Sea', of course. The film that soon followed will forever be a classic portrayal of what it meant to fight the Battle of the Atlantic (interestingly it was made by the father of the famous film critic Barry Norman).

Magne
19th March 2013, 20:48
Some of the drawings and even notes from the first tilt tests are to be found at Cleveland Archives in Middlesbrough. Kew has not got all of the history of this great ship. Great news about the Canadian grant to develop the HCMS Sackville site. But is she really the last one left in the world?

ben27
20th March 2013, 01:04
good day cshortridge73,19 july2012,20:30.re:corvettes at war,a great thread,and link.thank you,ben27

cshortridge73
20th March 2013, 10:45
You are very welcome ben27 thanks for your comment

chadburn
20th March 2013, 13:42
A thread like this would be incomplete without mentioning Nicholas Monsarrat's 1951 book 'The Cruel Sea', of course. The film that soon followed will forever be a classic portrayal of what it meant to fight the Battle of the Atlantic (interestingly it was made by the father of the famous film critic Barry Norman).

Along with "Three Corvette's"