M1000 says hello and asks for help with "Italian oldies"

m1000
25th January 2007, 14:14
Hello everybody!
I'm trying to collect pics of all the merchant ships (over 1000 tons) that were under italian flag at the outbreak of WW2; at present I'm pretty far from the goal: I lack about 100, out of almost 700 ships; most of these were built in the U.K..
Is there anybody that can help?
Trying to concentrate at the top of my list (sorted for historical importance of the ship), let me indicate the following:
WAR MALLOW (Ropner & sons, 1919), later BRIARWOOD, HEATHFIELD, NEDON, FAUSTO, MALDONADO;
WAR PUNDIT (J.Laing & sons, 1918), later SCOTTISH BARD, BACICIN PADRE, MANZANARES, SWIVEL, ST. MARY, CLYDE;
KINSMAN (Armstrong Whitworth, 1901), later WINNEBAGO, MASCONOMO, IRMA SCHINDLER, BURANO;
SAN CRISTOBAL (Armstrong Whitworth, 1906), later RIVA LIGURE;
FRANCIS HANIFY (Harlan & Hollingsworth, 1914), later FREEPORT SULPHUR N.1, RIVA SARDA, ALBERTO FASSIO;
WAREGGA (Reiherstieg Schiffwerfte, 1914), later MEDEA, FOUNDER, PLUTO.
Looking forward for a support
M1000

benjidog
25th January 2007, 22:44
Welcome to SN M1000,

I am moving this thread to the Say Hello forum as it is more likely to be seen there.

We would certainly be interested in seeing some of the photos that you have collected - maybe you will consider placing some of them in the Gallery.

I am sure the membership will help you with your missing ships if they can.

Regards,

Brian

treeve
25th January 2007, 23:58
Welcome M1000, let us have all your wants list ....
I see you are interested in one of Tankers Ltd ships.
I also have been looking for a picture of Scottish Bard.
Please can you add anything or correct anything on my page at
http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~treevecwll/bard.htm
Best Wishes, Raymond

john shaw
26th January 2007, 09:36
Hello. Good luck in your search. Is this the correct San Cristobal?

http://www.canalmuseum.com/photos/panamacanalphoto039.htm

R58484956
26th January 2007, 10:04
A warm welcome M1000 from a cold south of England,good luck with your request, I expect some photos will appear shortly. Bon voyage.

m1000
26th January 2007, 11:31
I had already seen your page, and it seemed to me very accurate, mainly considering the controversial history of BACICIN PADRE after Puerto Cabello events...; from my p.o.v. definitely no corrections.
Thank you for your interest (hoping to find some pic...)
M1000

I'm facing some difficulty in attaching the full list: hope to succeed after some manipulations...

Welcome M1000, let us have all your wants list ....
I see you are interested in one of Tankers Ltd ships.
I also have been looking for a picture of Scottish Bard.
Please can you add anything or correct anything on my page at
http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~treevecwll/bard.htm
Best Wishes, Raymond

m1000
26th January 2007, 11:37
Sorry, it isn't: the SAN CRISTOBAL I'm looking is an Eagle Oil tanker, of about 2100 tons; thank you all the same.
M1000

Hello. Good luck in your search. Is this the correct San Cristobal?

http://www.canalmuseum.com/photos/panamacanalphoto039.htm

m1000
26th January 2007, 14:15
This attachment should work; each entry contains:

shipname in 1940
tonnage
builder
year of bldg
owner in 1940
known former names (the last is the original)

Good luck for you and for everyone want to try...
M1000


Welcome M1000, let us have all your wants list ....
I see you are interested in one of Tankers Ltd ships.
I also have been looking for a picture of Scottish Bard.
Please can you add anything or correct anything on my page at
http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~treevecwll/bard.htm
Best Wishes, Raymond

treeve
26th January 2007, 15:07
Thanks for list ...
A quick glance reveals two other ships in which I have an interest.
War Cowslip was managed by Temperley, whose ships I have featured.
And I am writing up pages for Early Croation Steamers, largely Lussinpiccolo,
especially Martinolich, so Carmen will feature.
I have a picture of a Gudrun Maersk, not sure if it is the one you want.
I will have a more detailed look at your list.
Best Wishes, Raymond

m1000
26th January 2007, 16:27
A couple of hours ago I uploaded a pic of a cargo (M/S HILDA) whose owner, in the thirties, was a company called Lussino and whose registry port was Lussinpiccolo (where the pic was taken).
This ship never sailed under yugoslav or croatian flag and was captured at Bandar Shahpur in '41, by british forces occupying Iran; might it be of your interest?

treeve
26th January 2007, 17:51
It would indeed, thank you - Lussinpiccolo was named Mali Losinj when Croatian. These pages are very slow in preparation as I have had to write to a lot of places, and the only information available is in Croatian, which takes some considerable time to translate.

treeve
26th January 2007, 18:23
Is this your SS Bowden / ANNA MARIA?

treeve
26th January 2007, 18:40
This is the Gudrun Maersk I have ...
Rory may be able to help you more on this one...

treeve
26th January 2007, 19:13
Web site for Eagle Oil Tankers is at
http://www.eagleoiltankers.co.uk/
I cannot see San Cristobal in there, but I may have missed it.

m1000
26th January 2007, 19:24
Croatian ships:
I've pics of 4 out of 6 ships (over 1000 tons.) of the Martinolich fleet at the eve of the war; I lack Carmen and Sant'Antioco, having Carlo Martinolich, Galiola, Caterina (this pic was taken while the ship was sinking: it's not good to document hull lines and ship major characteristics; that's why CATERINA is still in my list; last 9 entries are in a similar situation) and Valdivagna;
Bowden:
I already saw this pic, but I guess is the 1st BOWDEN, not the 2nd, later ANNA MARIA;
GUDRUN MAERSK:
the right GUDRUN was one of the very first ships built for Maersk; I guess that this one is the 2nd GUDRUN, built in the thirties.
Thank you, and let's keep in touch
M1000

m1000
26th January 2007, 19:34
You can find it (recently added, but with no pics) in the Shell Tankers site
http://www.helderline.nl

Web site for Eagle Oil Tankers is at
http://www.eagleoiltankers.co.uk/
I cannot see San Cristobal in there, but I may have missed it.

treeve
26th January 2007, 19:50
Is this your Assunzione as SS Exford?

m1000
26th January 2007, 20:12
It might be: let me check with a friend of mine, wizard of the identification;
I'll let you know asap; any better resolution?

treeve
26th January 2007, 20:29
That's it as far as resolution goes.
A lot of pictures I have collected are really very rough indeed,
and this one is better than a lot of them. Sorry about that.

m1000
27th January 2007, 09:05
Probably (more than 50%) this is the right one: poor image quality doesn't allow to get a higher percentage. Thank you.
Mauro (this is my name)

Is this your Assunzione as SS Exford?