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Unknown training barque of a foreign navy.
· Date: Mon, 2 September 19 · Views: 335
· Filesize: 30.1kb, 68.5kb · Dimensions: 1023 x 760 ·
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stein
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Mon, 2 September 19 15:46

The Sagres, ex and future Rickmers Rickmers, now on display in Hamburg.
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Gijsha

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Mon, 2 September 19 16:38

Thanks stein! I shall upload to-morrow a photo of a Sagres taken (allegedly) in 1933. Would that be the same vessel?

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PANZA
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Mon, 2 September 19 17:49

Is the Sagres ship the former Guanabara ship?
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stein
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Tue, 3 September 19 03:52

No, this is an earlier Sagres, used as schoolship by the Portuguese between 1924 and 1961. The one that followed her, the Sagres II, is the original Albert Leo Schlageter launched by Blohm & Voss in Hamburg in 1938. She was seized by the Americans in 1945. As they already had what they wanted they handed her to Brazil in 1948 who named her Guanabara. The Brazilians felt they could do with what they had in their Almirante Saldanha, and when the Portuguese needed a replacement for the aging in 1896 built Sagres, they sold the Guanabara to them. This was in 1961, and the portuguese immediately transferred the name Sagres to her. (After a period as stationary schoolship Santo Andre, the old one was sold to Hamburg for use as museum ship in 1983.)

The Rickmers ship, built in Bremerhaven in the Rickmers yard, had a nearly unbroken sheer line and double topgallants, The Blohm & Voss built one has very shallow single topgallants (no deeper than the upper topsails), and double spanker gaffs. And the forecastle and quarterdeck elevation is quite pronounced in her profile.

The current Sagres is actually number three, although most name the ex Rickmers ship number one. The first one was built in England in 1848, and used as a schoolship under the name Sagres between 1882 and 1898.
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PANZA
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Wed, 4 September 19 17:20

thanks Stein.
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