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sea dangler



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I am doing a large painting of this busy scene in Liverpool early 1900's,but i can not identify the ship the old photo is blurred around her hull,I think it may be one of the White Sierras,but can not be sure.
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sea dangler
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Fri, 11 October 19 13:17

With it being a large painting 24 x48 inches ,I will have to show a name,so if i am informed otherwise,I think i might settle for the Sierra Miranda,i know she was on the Rangoon trade and that timber being unloaded could be Teak,however i will leave the name to be painted last.
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stein
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Fri, 11 October 19 14:55

Any ship unloading timber through bow ports in Liverpool must be suspected to be Norwegian, and with the suggestion of a Sierra in mind, Sierra Miranda, under Norwegian flag from 1907, immediately steps forward to be considered. There are a number of good photographs available in Norwegian media of that ship. Unfortunately it is not her. There are several differences in hull shape impossible to bridge.

Google could not help, the robots there had never seen the picture before, and going through every steel full rigged ship under Norwegian ownership did not help me either. I found pictures of nearly every one of these, but none would fit. I suspect this is a relatively late build - late eighties, early nineties. I will check a couple of Norwegian owned full riggers I did not find on the net, and maybe a couple of German ones, and then I will give up. ...No luck
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sea dangler
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Fri, 11 October 19 15:42

Thank you for your interest Stein,like you i have being on google and can not find a proper match for the Sierra Miranda,I hope that you find a Norwegian or German full rigger that will suit the image.
I got the picture from a bill board in a Liverpool side street,i think used to fill up space,so maybe the Liverpool Maritime museum may hold the answer,I would have to find time to go and do some research if I can leave my wife with a relative for a few hours.
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stein
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Fri, 11 October 19 16:58

The Largiemore is one of those I have not yet marked as out of consideration, but admittedly I am close to doing so. http://www.clydeships.co.uk/view.php?ref=19648
However, do you really need to name the ship? Here is my attempt at describing the same situation. https://www.shipsnostalgia.com/galle...n-wood/cat/533 Nobody has ever asked me for the ships's name... though admittedly some did ask for the name of the port. And btw., if I had seen your photograph before I painted my picture, the composition would be close to that photograph. I look forward to seeing the finished work.
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Fri, 11 October 19 17:38

Perhaps I could leave the name off,but i will still go to the museum and check it out,meanwhile i will continue with the painting,which i am enjoying doing for all its different points of interest.I looked at your fine painting and noticed that you had no name as you said.
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Sat, 12 October 19 17:04

I found two ships with that sort of decorative scrolls on the bow, placed as on above ship on a plank just above double hawsepipes. William Mitchell and Birkdale. The first had single topgallants, the second was a barque, so it is neither of those - but interestingly, they were both built by Bigger of Londonderry. So one might consider Ainsdale, Dimsdale, Hawksdale and the rest of the Bigger-built Dales. And I did, but unfortunately none of those had double topgallants. However, I have read that he built a total of 25 steel sailing ships between the years 1887 and 1892... A long shot, but, etc.
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