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yvon



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Unknown coaster, photographed leaving Baie de Somme (France), circa 1930.
Thanks by advance for identification.
Regards,
Yvon
· Date: Wed, 8 January 20 · Views: 273
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Source of Image, If not your own: My collection
Location photo was taken: Baie de Somme (France)
Date photo was taken: Circa 1930
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Bootsmann

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Wed, 8 January 20 12:46

Might be Norwegian, the basics look a bit like TYSSEDAL:
https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/DS_%C2...al%C2%BB_(1912)
Rgds, Manfred
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Freddy01
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Wed, 8 January 20 14:43

Hi Bootsmann,
I wish I would agree with you, and I think you are in the good direction, but my money, the scheme of this Tyssedal doesn’t match 100 %. Or maybe is Yvon's pic from another period, after modification/rebuilding ?
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Bootsmann

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Wed, 8 January 20 15:44

I said the basics look a bit.....only as a possible clue to a country or region of built where to look.
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yvon
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Wed, 8 January 20 16:22

Hello Manfred,
Thank you very much for this interesting clue.
I have checked the ships produced by the TYSSEDAL's shipyard, Mjellem & Karlsen. But unfortunately it appears that only TYSSEDAL had this profile (P4).
All accomodations aft was not so common in the 1920-30's.
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stein
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Wed, 8 January 20 17:25

She is carrying sails, gaff sails (or perhaps triangular ones with only one spar?) on two masts and a jib, but nothing much aft of midships - she cannot have been well balanced for sailing. Maybe she once had a mizzen aft of that high funnel.
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Freddy01
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Thu, 9 January 20 12:36

Hello Stein,
Are you sure those 2 masts are carrying sails … I ‘m rather convinced that there are 2 boom/cranes … also see the funnel on the back. What do you think ?
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stein
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Thu, 9 January 20 14:45

I see the jib, which is tied up in a way that was usual with that sail. And though fishing boats used, and still use, a mizzen so as to lie steady when fishing, a jib has no such use. And I note that while a derrick post may serve derricks both forward and aft, and if the second mast here only served as such, there would be no need for the first one.

One would perhaps expect to see blocks for both throat and peak haliards if carrying both booms and gaffs. And that funnel is, as I have said, too high for a sail to pass over it, besides the mast for that sail is missing. So I am far from insisting.

But this is anyway of small importance when it comes to identifying the ship. I have not much illustrated literature on coasters, but I have some on Swedish, Danish and German. The Germans I have noticed, after leafing through seven volumes of Herbert Karting's "Deutsche Schoner" stuck almost exclusively to a clipper bow, the Danes almost exclusively to a bow curved the other way. The Swedes used a little bit of everything for their steam and motor schooners (of which they had many), plumb bows as on the ship that is to be identified, clipper bows, forward leaning straight stems, and the Danish round stem. I own three well illustrated books on Swedish small sail carrying coasters and there is plenty of plumb stemmed motor-ketches and motor-schooners in them. The only thing I have on Norwegian small coasters is what is illustrated in a book on the old ships of Haugesund, and there is not a single ship there with any likeness to the ship above. So, might she be Dutch? It is my impression that the small coaster with engines and acommodation aft, open bridge ahead of the wheelhouse and a short rounded stern is something arch-Dutch.
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