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I think this was taken in the summer of 1960 on the way to or from Pladju in Indonesia.
· Date: Wed, 27 August 08 · Views: 582
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zelo1954
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Wed, 27 August 08 20:13

If this is a British-built Scandinavian type, unless it was built directly for private ownership, I cannot find anything that fits both the name length and the flag on the hull. Is that French or Italian? It's not a Hansa is it?? Perhaps it's a wee bit small for both types but certainly of similar layout.
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Tom Haywood

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Thu, 28 August 08 05:47

Looks like something out off a Humfrey Jordan novel.

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anthony lear

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Thu, 28 August 08 06:16

Also looks like something Straits Shipping might well have owned.
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WILLIAM WONG
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Thu, 28 August 08 06:27

The Chinese character suggests that she might be of Singaporean origin

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graham_t
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Thu, 28 August 08 07:40

Definately a British built standard WWII Scandinavian type.
I think that this was one - don't have photo
Empire Thackeray 46 THACKERAY - 48 THEOKEETOR - 53 MOZART - 54 MICAELA - 60 ONORATO SECONDO - 62 JELCZ

MICAELA was Italian flag which fits the flag on the side and looks about the right length of name and right date
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zelo1954
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Thu, 28 August 08 15:03

I looked at that one Graham but crossed it off because I thought the vessel's name was two short words. If you can confirm Scandinavian type then I think you have the vessel correctly identified.
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graham_t
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Thu, 28 August 08 17:57

I'm not convinced, to be honest. Empire Thackeray was certainly a Scandinavian type, but her owners were SOARMA whose colours were plain black funnel and hull with a buff superstructure. Also they traded mainly N europe to the Med.
One Empire Scandinavian type, Empire Candida became INDARUNG of Indonesian owners, but not, according to Miramar until 1961, though I'm not sure how reliable renaming information was from that part of the world. I wouldn't be overly surprised either if her name was written as 2 words, INDA RUNG on the bow even if she was registered as one. If you scan at higher resolution and sharpen, can you pick out any letters?
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holland25
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Fri, 29 August 08 00:55

I have tried to doctor the scan and the best that I can make out about the name on the bow is that it consists of 6 characters possibly in two groups of three. They are indistinct and might even be Chinese type characters. I can state that the picture was taken between September and November 1960 from the Blue Funnel Ulysses.The camera used was a fairly basic Ilford Sportsman.

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anthony lear

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Fri, 29 August 08 02:20

My earlier comment should have read Straits Steamship Co of Singapore. Not to be confused with Straits Shipping of New Zealand.
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CVB

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Fri, 29 August 08 04:17

There was also a Scandinavian type INDONOR (ex EMPIRE PILGRIM) owned by Tsu Yau Lin (Wallem & Co), Hongkong which sailed in Indonesian charter and got wrecked off North Java Februari 1960.
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yvon
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Fri, 29 August 08 16:55

Hi,
As she seems to be a 'Park' class built at Pictou, photo taken in 1960, and if the flag is French, she could be MUKALI. A lot of 'if' !
FRA / 1943 / 2878 grt / 98,1 m
Built by Foundation Maritime Ltd, à Pictou (Canada)
1943 – CATARAQUI PARK (Can)
1946 – PIGNEAU DE BEHAINE (Fra) – Centre d’Approvisionnement de l’Indochine
1948 – PIGNEAU DE BEHAINE (Fra) – Compagnie des Transports Océaniques
1955 – AMBOULI (Fra) – Compagnie Asiatique de Navigation
1960 – MUKALI (Fra) – Compagnie Asiatique de Navigation (Hongkong)
1963 – WAYWIND (Lbr)
10/1969 – Vendu à la démolition en Indochine.
Regards, Yvon.
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holland25
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Fri, 29 August 08 20:13

Yvon,

I have had another go at it, and I do admit that you can always see what you are looking for,however I think you may be right with MUK ALI.

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graham_t
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Sat, 30 August 08 16:31

I'd forgotten how similar the Park ships were to the British build. It seems as though a small group of these ships were trading in the Far East under the French flag.
http://www.es-conseil.fr/pramona/pigneau.html
shows MUKALI under a previous name, together with her sisters.
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Cisco

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Wed, 6 October 10 05:18

Lloyds Shipping Index for April 17 , 1961 , has Mukali as Surabaya, April 3, for Palembang so that fits...

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