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Gina Maria




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Gulpers



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Gina Maria on passage from Vera Cruz to Tampico.
Owned by T.M.M. and managed by Denholm MacLay (1974).

Corneville
Year Built: 1955
General Cargo
DWT: 5270
LOA: 121.3 m
Beam: 16.5 m
Flag: Norway
Speed: 16 Knots
Machinery: Diesel, single screw
Builder: Helsingor Vaerft, Elsinore, Denmark

History
1971 Gina Maria, T.M.M. UK flag then Liberian
1977 Sonora, T.M.M.
1982 Bucorones
Broken Up Brownsville1985
· Date: Tue, 13 October 09 · Views: 403
· Tags: 2 · Filesize: 59.4kb · Dimensions: 523 x 773 ·
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Stephen J. Card

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Tue, 13 October 09 17:19

Denholm MacLay? Wasn't she Denhom Ship Management... or at least she started off there. I visited the ship in New York for a few 'wets' with 2nd Mate Niel Morrison. I was in EUROLINER at the time. Comparing the two ships was night and day.

Stephen
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Gulpers

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Tue, 13 October 09 17:35

Hi Stephen,
You are correct, she was initially Denholm Ship Management but, when I was on her, she had transferred over to Denholm MacLay. I held the lofty position of 'Senior Cadet' and there was an agreement to allow us Denholm Cadets to sail on her to get General Cargo experience. As you will recall, at that time there were not a lot of General Cargo ships left in Denholms.
Yes, she was a heap, but I learned a lot on this wee ship. She was a real work up and I had joined her after a spell on Asiafreighter - chalk and cheese indeed!
There were three Denholm Cadets on her and she flagged out to Liberian flag when we were in Vera Cruz drydock. After much debate between the Old Man, Denholm MacLay and Denholms, they eventually decided to pull us off the ship because they didn't want to compromise our sea time for our second mates ticket.
To be honest, we were all bitterly disappointed to be taken off the ship - I could write a book about my time on Gina Maria!

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Don Matheson
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Tue, 13 October 09 18:35

Was 2E with Denholm Maclay and was asked to join the Gina Maria as she was coming over to Europe and would be doing a drydock. Went back to the Tere (TMM) instead as she was running US to Mexico which I just loved.
This was around 75.
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Gulpers

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Tue, 13 October 09 22:33

Don,
She was a 'League of Nations' when I was on her in 1974. Her complement was as follows;

Master English, C/O Scottish, 2/O Iranian, 3/O Philippine, Deck Cadet Scottish, Deck Cadet English, Deck Cadet English, R/O Irish, C/E Indian, 2/E Scottish, 3/E Scottish, 3/E Philippine, 4/E - Philippine, J/E Philippine, Elect Philippine, Ch Steward English, Bosun Spanish, Chippy Chilean, Cook USA, Steward Nigerian, Steward Spanish, Steward Spanish, Galley Boy Portuguese, ABs Mexican, Spanish, Honduran, Guatemalan and Portuguese, Greasers Spanish

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Don Matheson
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Wed, 14 October 09 05:58

Gulpers:- Tere and Monica both TMM were mostly British crews but normally had a Mexican RO so someone could talk to the TMM office in Vera Cruz and Mexico City..
Was trying to work out the common language on your crew list, seems to have been Spanish with a Scots/English accent.
Great runs though, thought Vera Cruz a great place to spend a few days every couple of weeks.

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Wed, 14 October 09 12:52

Don,
Language mainly English, Spanish, Gibberish and a lot of gesticulating.
Spent a very memorable New Year in Vera Cruz - oh the times we had sitting in the bars round the square!

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Ian Brown
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Fri, 13 September 13 15:49

I was 3rd Mate on the Gina Maria and had a great time running round the Caribbean with Vera Cruz as home port. Saw the dawn in a few times at the bars round the square in Vera Cruz. Several people did double header trips as they were having such a good time. Paid off nearly broke but with no regrets.
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Gulpers

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Fri, 13 September 13 16:28

Hi Ian,
As I said in an earlier post, I probably learned more about life, and seamanship, on that wee ship than any other. I often reflect on experiences from my time on Gina Maria.

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