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Turkish coaster SONMEZLER photographed in the Bosphorus. Never recorded by Lloyds with this name, though I think she sailed as such for some years. The Sonmezler was reported colliding with thepassenger ferryboat Turan Emeksiz, as a result of which 5 people died, in Dec 1972.
I've heard various theories as to her history, but does anyone have definitive information?
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graham moore

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Wed, 11 November 09 19:02

I know this probably doesn't help, but I seem to remember this ship featuring in an article in "Ships Monthly" in about 1980, about the wonderful sights still to be seen in the Bosphorus. It also featured the SOZER BIRADERLER ex.Heimdal, said to be on the coal run from Zongalduk, and the old favourite HALIS KALKAVAN, formerly Baron Graham.
The article obviously struck a chord with me, so perhaps under hypnosis I might be able to come up with the exact issue !
A couple of minutes meditation and a glass of plonk later, I have a vague idea she may have originally been one of Kennaugh's " ...... Force" ships, but this is probably only an alcohol-induced fantasy.....
Ah...red herring sandwiches for supper !
Cheers, Graham M.
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graham_t
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Thu, 12 November 09 04:21

Graham,
The article you refer to was written by Malcolm Cranfield with whom I took the trip on which this photo was taken. After the article was published he recieved a letter saying that his version of her history was incorrect and gave an alternative version. We've never been 100% certain of the true facts, hence this posting.
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riversea
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Fri, 13 November 09 14:20

May the force be with you, Mr. Moore!
The only 'loose end' in Roy Fenton's booklet on Kennaugh (in 1979) would have been SKELWITH FORCE by Williamson in 1908 and then GEORGIOS P, Greek at time of writing the book. All others scrapped or sunk by then.
She certainly has the look of a Williamson or similar breed of coaster.
The other one from there can be discounted, the long-liver VOLANA of 1913 which was Turkish in later life (EMIL from 1957) but profile much-altered after conversion to motor vessel.
Graham T, not having retained a copy of MC's article, can you enlighten us about the alternative theories?
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graham_t
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Sun, 15 November 09 14:29

In the SM article Malcolm identified her as ex VOLANA, subsequent history from Miramar
20 CORNISH COAST - 35 KYLE QUEEN - 51 KARDESLER - 55 MESO - 57 EMEL - 83 AKSEL-I - 97 SILE 1
BU Aliaga 3.5.04
Malcolm's correspondent said that the true identity was
ex ILGAZ ex ESPEROS built 1920 by Hardinxveld. Miramar has her broken up in Istanbul in 1965.
Looking at photos of AKSEL 1 I think the first is unlikely.
As for the second, I haven't a clue. A Dutch built for Greek ship that I can find no photos of. Unusual to find a Greek ship sold to Turkey
The photo above was taken in 1977
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graham moore

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Mon, 16 November 09 13:37

I was going to add a comment eliminating AKSEL 1, which was also long-lasting and superficially similar. Perhaps the most obvious difference is that Aksel 1's mainmast was stepped behind her bridge, and her funnel was less 'streamlined'.
I would agree with Graham T, though, that it would be highly unlikely that a Greek ship would be sold to Turkey at that time.
If she was Dutch-built, there should surely be some features on her which would point to that, although I'll still have to do some homework on that one !
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Mon, 16 November 09 17:17

The same bulders built quite a few coasters for Hughes with names ending in ROSE.
PINK ROSE and MOSS ROSE built 1930 (10years later than ESPEROS) have identical as- built tonnages.
There's photo of MOSS ROSE at http://www.photoship.co.uk/JAlbum%20...20Rose-01.html which you would probably guess was UK built.
It looks generally similar to SONMEZLER, but the layout of so many coasters of this era was similar, maybe that's not too surprising.
I don't have any particular reason to doubt that she is ex ILGAZ, but I've never been able to find any documentary evidence.
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Aristo

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Sun, 4 June 17 11:01

I believe that SONMEZLER was the ex ILGAZ ex ESPEROS. There is a photo of ESPEROS at http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9m0hgCloJ-...25CE%25A3.jpeg
As you can see only the old fashion funneled was replaced with the small streamlined one, apparently when she became a motorship.
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