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fred henderson



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This is my first attempt to post a photo. The image is taken from a postcard sent to me in January 1977 to publicise the launch of the quarterly "Warship". I think the ship is one of the six Chatham class light cruisers (3 for RN, 3 for RAN) although she could be a Birmingham (3 for RN, 1 for RAN). Do any of you have any ideas as to the actual ship?
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Doug Rogers

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Fri, 26 August 05 00:33

Thats a very good picture Fred, well done with your first picture.
I cant help as yet with which ship as yet but I believe her to be one of the third group (last) of the generic Town Class Light Cruisers....all 3 vessels of the Birmingham Group completed in 1914. Reasons...slightly modified bow compared to the earlier groups but most significantly the gun arrangements, dual 6\" guns on either side and a single 6\" gun aft. Cant define it further currently, but she is either the Nottingham, Birmingham or Lowestoft.

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japottinger

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Fri, 26 August 05 10:49

One of 8-Arethusa class ordered in 1912. Built by Chatham- Arethusa; Devonport Dockyard- Aurora; Fairfield- Undaunted ; Vickers- Phaeton and Penelope; Beardmore- Inconstant, Royalist and Galatea . None of the views I have seen has the tall mizzen mast.
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fred henderson

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Fri, 26 August 05 16:32

I am sorry Japottinger but I must disagree with you. My records show the Arathusa class with only three funnels and as you say they only have one mast.

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Fri, 26 August 05 16:43

Can anyone explain the reason for the ladder rungs under the bow overhang? They must have been fun when wet and what did you do when you arrived at the last step?
The other thing that I have always wondered is the reason for the sailors being in tropical whites, whilst the senior rates/officers are in blue, including one guy in a greatcoat?

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Doug Rogers

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Fri, 26 August 05 21:12

Rungs possibly used for buoy jumping when mooring, otherwise no idea. And the dress...nah, cant explain that either.

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japottinger

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Sat, 27 August 05 10:39

Ooops Fred, you are correct!
Sorry I am forgetting to count!
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japottinger

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Sat, 27 August 05 10:44

Could it be Birkenhead or Chester, Chester had a raked pole mizzen mast.
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jbryce

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Sun, 4 September 05 11:31

I have photographs taken at Plymouth Dockyard where the sailors were wearing whites and a senior rate is in blues. Seems to be the standard working rig in the early 1800's.
Agree that it is probably Birmingham, Lowestoft or Nottingham c1914.
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jbryce

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Sun, 13 August 06 15:13

Have a pic of HMS Birmingham of this class with her anchor hanging from a cleat above the ladder (this pic shows a short length of chain at that position). The anchor chain looks to have been split, so that the anchor is detached, and the loose end of the chain has then been attached to a buoy. So the ladder is probably to gain access to the shackle pin or even to give access to paint the suspended anchor.
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fred henderson

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Sun, 13 August 06 17:35

Interesting thoughts. jbryce. It all seems a very risky activity and why do it? It is not as if they had bow Sonar to protect. Perhaps a ram bow caused anchor use problems.

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Steve Woodward
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Fri, 15 September 06 11:57

The tripod mast gives this ship away as a Birmigham second class protected cruiser ( the first class to be so fitted)
Length 430 feet pp 457 feet overall, beam 50 feet, draught 16 feet, displacement 5,440 tons normal 6,040 tons deep. 4 shaft Parsons turbines, 25,000 shp, 25.5kts, 9 x 6in 45cal Mk XII (9 x 1), 4 x 3 pounder (4 x 1), 2 x 21in TT Crew 480
Cannot tell which of the 4 ( Birmingham,Lowestoft, Nottingham or HMAS\Adelaide she is but will keep looking

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Fri, 22 October 10 16:50

Was it you ? - if so you must be very old.
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