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Hugh Ferguson



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This is the Glengarry discharging cargo alongside Holt's Wharf, Kowloon, sometime in the 1950's I would guess. It's the usual hive of activity judging by the number of derricks slung over both sides.
Note the painters' stage under the bows-that would be Ah Kings men at work. The Chinese crew would all have been taking 2/3 days off. Some crew changes would take place and, during one voyage I recall, the 2nd bosun took a voyage off to go to Shanghai in a junk (the only way to get into China,unobserved, in those days.) He was back next trip, but he had to take the precaution of getting a relative to take his place in order to be sure that he could return to the same position and in the same ship!
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stein
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Sun, 25 March 07 09:12

Really thought it was a painting, (could well have been a bit larger even if detail would be lacking). Interesting story about Ah King, wonder if he could keep that secret travelling up for long? Regards, Stein.
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Hugh Ferguson

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Sun, 25 March 07 12:29

Ah King was the guy who organised the gangs for chipping, painting, caulking etc. Wang Kee was the stevedore and dealt solely with the cargo work. Everything proceeded at a hectic pace over 2/3 days and then it was off to Japan.
It was a unique experience to see winches driven at maximum speed, with a sling of cargo whizzing up from the bottom of a lower hold and being landed on one side to a junk, and on the other, onto the wharf. This was done with derricks "winged out" when, just a slight error on the part of the winch-men, would have resulted in a sling of cargo clipping a combing and the whole lot descending to where it had just come from. I have never seen, or heard, of such a practice in any other port in the world.
Nor, in my 24 times to Hong Kong, did I ever see a sling of cargo fail to clear the hatch. Electric winches driven at those speeds got so hot you couldn't touch them, which says a lot for the quality of the Chapman & the Wilson winches. It was a bit tough however on the wire runners, which with this rig, got dragged across the hatch coamings.
The 2nd bosun referred to was in the Glenroy and it was good to see him rejoin us on our next time in Hong Kong 4 months later.
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Sun, 25 March 07 18:17

Very nostalgic photo, thank you Hugh Ferguson for that.
When I was with Blue Funnel all the winches were Laurence Scotts if I remember rightly.

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Hugh Ferguson

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Mon, 26 March 07 07:23

Yes, you're right Trader-just another little item that has slipped my mind;well, it was over 50 years ago!
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Hugh Ferguson

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Mon, 26 March 07 07:33

Another thought! this photo must have been taken during the break from noon to 1pm; there's not a sling of cargo in the air and no painters on the stage and no sign of activity on the wharf but then again, it could have been the 10th of October!
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Tai Pan

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Sun, 25 January 09 07:19

Super photo did 6 trips in her as 1st R/O in late 50s, could have been on board.
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IAN M

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Sun, 17 May 09 19:03

I have a copy of the February, 1954 issue of The National Geographic Magazine which has this picture of the Glengarry in colour. During my time on her, there were no crew changes in Hong Kong as all the Chinese signed articles in Shanghai.

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Hugh Ferguson

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Tue, 21 June 11 05:42

Both the Glen boats I sailed in, Ian, Glenartney and Glenroy for nine voyages, carried Hong Kong cooks and stewards and a deck crowd from a place near Shanghai which they always referred to as "??????, Shanghai more far" (I can't just recall the name but if it comes to mind I'll post it here).

I do believe the phrase I often heard from one or other of the Chinese seamen, signed on from Shanghai, was that they came from
"Ning Po more far." I have no idea where that was but I would guess Ning Po was an area in Shanghai to where they came from anywhere in China.
It would be interesting to hear if any other, who sailed in Glen boats, ever remembers hearing that phrase.
Incidentally, I was in Shanghai a couple of times in a Bluey but never went there in a Glen. Did Glen boats go to Shanghai?
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Pat Kennedy

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Tue, 21 June 11 15:17

Never saw Holt's Wharf from this perspective Hugh, although I was there many times in Blueys. Wasn't the local term for the wharf a 'Godown'?
It was Holts Wharf outward bound, for 3 days discharging, with the Chinese dockers and chipping/painting gangs hard at it day and night. It was a relief to sail and wash down, then a few days of peace until you hit Manila.
Homeward bound all Holt ships went to the bouys.
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Hugh Ferguson

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Wed, 22 June 11 02:54

Yes, Pat, it was always referred to as Holt's Wharf, "Godowns" were the sheds on the wharves-same all over the East.
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