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portholepaul



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had these for awhile one keeps perfect time the gains 2mins aday.I can live with that
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karl heinz
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Registered: September 2007
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Wed, 12 September 07 09:02

I see on the picture 2 clocks, Has this something to do with life onboard ?
or am i missing something out here ??

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stein
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Wed, 12 September 07 10:28

One could suspect that you haven't been at sea Karl Heinz, or you would, as I am, immediately be transported in the mind to a ship's mess-room when staring at them.
As you do at sea continually enter new time-zones, you would often not, as one of the lower deck, have the slightest idea what time it was without one. (There was also a clock on the bridge and in the engine room, and some companies did, as a tradition, mark time with a bell, and there was a message-board in the mess-room, where time change was informed of though, but many of us did not use a watch). I am talking in the past tense as it is quite some time since I were at sea, but I suspect these objects still are part of a seaman's life(?). Regards, Stein.
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karl heinz
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Wed, 12 September 07 10:50

thank you stein excuse my ignorance, so why are they both telling the same time in the mess Room.

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stein
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Wed, 12 September 07 11:28

Because they're no longer onboard a ship but belongs to Portholepaul's collection of nautical antiquities. Regards, Stein.
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K urgess
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Wed, 12 September 07 11:30

Both of these are ship's clocks. The description covers a lot of these bulkhead (wall) mounted round clocks, usually brass cased but, these being Russian, probably stainless steel.
The one on the left is a radio room clock marked for the radio silence periods and for the automatic alarm signal (12 x 4 second dashes with 1 second between as shown on the outer ring). Although the periods marked at 0 and 30 minutes should be in green or blue.
The one on the right is a Soviet submarine clock quite commonly available on eBay.
Since they belong to Paul they are part of his collection of maritime memorabilia.
One day soon he will possibly get the boat they all fit in.

I must admit to being a collector of ship's clocks.
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stein
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Wed, 12 September 07 11:45

Thanks for the info Kris, I didn't understand the red markings on the left one, (I still don't, but I can at least repeat your explanation). Apart from the picture of a sub on the right one, is there anything else that marks it as a submarine timepiece? (I do feel slightly upset at none of them fitting into a Norwegian mess-room of the sixties, what with all the effort I put into my explanation!). Regards, Stein.
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karl heinz
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Wed, 12 September 07 11:53

Hallo again Stein,
Do Norwegian ships have 2 clocks in the mess Room then ?

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roymuir

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Wed, 12 September 07 11:54

**** oh dear!
Surely to Christ there is no explanation needed in this site to why someone posts a common bloody mess room and sparkies clock?
Givvus a bloody break mate!

Regards, Roy.
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K urgess
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Wed, 12 September 07 12:06

The right hand one has a waterproof case by the looks of it, Stein. I doubt if it is fully submersible but probably protected against pressure variations and condensation. The latter will kill any clock.
The red markings at 15-18 and 45-48 minutes past the hour on the left clock are to mark the periods when all transmissions on the international calling and distress frequency of 500kHz (morse) should cease so that any vessel in distress sending an SOS could be heard. Hence called silence periods.
The pink markings that seem to be a Russian affectation (normally coloured as I said before) at 0-3 and 30-33 minutes past the hour are for the international radio telephone calling and distress frequency of 2182kHz.
I don't know about Norwegian ships but the British ships I sailed on had a single clock in each mess room or saloon showing local time. I can imagine it would have been handy to see what time it is at home as well.
The radio room clock was always kept at Greenwich Mean Time (Zulu) so that all radio watches happened at the same times.
Hope this gives you a better explanation, Stein. Now you can amaze all with your knowledge of how "gnisten" worked.
Hilsen
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stein
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Wed, 12 September 07 12:16

Thanks Gnisten, now I get it! No, we had but a single clock, but then we didn't consider our homeland to be the center of the world , and radioing home had to be arranged days beforehand, wherever you were, at the time. Regards, Stein.
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portholepaul

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Wed, 12 September 07 18:12

Hi Lads ,a lot of coment this attracted, the reason they are on the same time ,is my son is on leave when he is home thats how they stay,when he is at sea one will be set for where his ship is ,just so I can contact him if need be .the radio room clock is #1455 2-73 the sub clock is #3047 3-95.
and I was told they were tarted up after the movie Hunt for Red October .Both have the same workings as I have pulled them apart for cleaning ,the radio room clock loses 2 minutes aday ,I just compansate for that as I have tryied but unable to regulate it any better.I think they are stainless steel or another type of alloy.Hope this has helped .
Regards Paul.
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