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Southampton 21.05.2015
· Date: Sun, 17 January 16 · Views: 203
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NAUCLER
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Registered: December 2006
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Sun, 17 January 16 09:41

These large Cruise liners are like the cars today: they look almost the same everywhere and you can't separate one from another - today's Cruise ships are hard to separate if they are built at Meyer, Fincantieri, Saint-Nazaire or in Finland - do they all have the same architector and engineering team for all Cruise liner contruction all over Europe? It is, however, remarkable that almost 95%+ of all Cruise liners are built on our "stagnated, old-fashioned, out of date, old Europe" - to use the very off-topic braindead neoconservative American mindset... ;-))
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canberra97

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Mon, 18 January 16 12:55

Ridiculous comment especially the last bit regarding 'stagnated, old-fashioned, out of date, old Europe'.

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lasuvidaboy
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Mon, 18 January 16 13:05

Blame it on cost cutting. Most cars look alike due to cost cutting and government regulations. Cruise ships often look similar due to the fact that most have veranda cabins-lots of them and 'wasted space' such as a long forecastle and rounded corners can't have modular cabins installed, don't generate income and are expensive to build. With today's ships (and cars) it's more important of what's on the inside (that can produce maximum revenue) rather than exterior aesthetics.
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poseidon9
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Mon, 18 January 16 13:52

I have asked the builders about naval architects and designers: they told me that it's nowadays mostly team work of different groups and there is not a single individualistic naval architect for a newbuilding like perhaps in the past it was the case. I have also understood that much of the basic planning may come from the owner. There are of course some well-known names. Was it Renzo Piano, who designed some cruise vessels? (those look nowadays actually almost "nostalgic"). There may be famous interior designers like Joe Farcus for Carnival.

One must remember that all balcony ships are however not identical either. There are "better" and "less good" ones among them. Perhaps the slightly smaller vessels are better, like the new Vikings. I find many modern vessels however quite "energetic" looking and actually more so than perhaps some of the older liners still around with their eventual wear and tear.
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lasuvidaboy
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Mon, 18 January 16 16:21

Poseidon, interesting. Unlike the QE2 which was beautifully designed inside and out by a team that apparently were in sync with one another. Having different design teams is what caused huge problems at GM in the 1980s. One team designed the interior and another the exterior. In most cases they did not compliment one another. There are of course ways to make a large cruise ship pleasing to the eyes but height restrictions (funnel and mast height) as well as the need for modular interiors/cabins usually determine the basic exterior shape as does the company bean counters wanting to have as much revenue producing space as possible within the box.
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CliveH
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Mon, 18 January 16 17:27

poseidon9, I want to know what "older liners still around...." that you are referring to?
The only old former liner still in service that I can recall is the Marco Polo.............

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CliveH
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Mon, 18 January 16 17:29

I should have also said that 'energetic' is hardly the word I would have used to describe the Royal Princess, heavy and ponderous are words that seem, to me, to be more apt.

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poseidon9
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Tue, 19 January 16 04:39

What older liners still around? I saw Oceanic on her last around-the-world tour before scrapping and that vessel looked really fine and "energetic" then, I have always liked that vessel. On the other hand I had a little bit of disappointment for instance with Louis Aura, anyway nice that she is still around - many vessels built in early 1970s are already going to scrapyard. The small Renaissance - vessels were built as rather luxurious vessels and looked nice with their white livery. There is one of them at the moment with dark blue hull and I didn't like it as much as before (have forgotten the name). I think many Costa vessels for instance look nice and "energetic" as well as the previous Royal Princess (now Artania?). The ex Royal Vikings are fine, like Albatross. However I didn't like much the dark hull new appearance of Vistafjord and Sagafjord in Saga colours although I found Angelina Lauro and Achille Lauro extremely nice with their blue hulls (I was also younger then, the taste changes over time). I agree that the present Royal Princess has quite massive superstructure, anyway I saw her too and didn't find too bad at all.
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