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Corinthic and Suevic, River Fal 1967




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davidlaf



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Laid up in the River Fal, September 1967.

Can someone identify them?
· Date: Mon, 31 March 08 · Views: 1,037
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gadgee
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Mon, 31 March 08 15:08

Very interesting - is the date correct? Vessel in foreground looks like one of the four Corinthic class. The rear one looks like one of the five Cedrics?.

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Nolan Loveridge
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Mon, 31 March 08 15:38

Looks to me like it may be the Corinthic nearest the camera and Suevic behind. The length of the name on the stern of the nearest ship favours Corinthic over Athenic (the nearest rival) and the stern, funnel, ventilators and lack of mainmast on the ship behind point to it being the Suevic.

However I stand to be corrected.
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Mon, 31 March 08 15:49

Nolan
Yes I am inclined to agree with you about the distant one being Suevic. I cannot see a mainmast and if you look closely I think you can see a forward goal post mast with nav light housing in the centre. Suevic was laid up in the River Blackwater(Essex) in 1969 according to de Kerbrech.

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Tue, 1 April 08 02:46

Going by my photo the closest one looks like the Corinthic. It must have been after her conversion to Cargo Only.
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Nolan Loveridge
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Tue, 1 April 08 03:05

gadgee, yes its true that Suevic was laid up in the River Blackwater in 1969. I was a junior engineer on her at that time. We sailed from there to Rotterdam to drydock then loaded in London for NZ. Ended up on a double header.
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Tue, 1 April 08 13:44

Interesting date 1967 - post the 66 strike and well before the big "cull" of the early seventies - so this was only a temporary "layup" - maybe waiting for the NZ lamb/ apple season??- I sailed as 3/0 on Corinthic in 1969/70 and she was still going strong - albeit without the pax accommodation in use.
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John Crossland
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Tue, 1 April 08 20:53

I joined Suevic on 2nd October 1967 in Liverpool for a voyage to Aus & NZ, and we sailed deepsea almost immediately, so I doubt the caption of River Fal September 1967, is correct.

I would say River Fal with a different date, or Blackwater 1969.

Over to you davidlaf.
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zelo1954
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Wed, 2 April 08 05:54

One thing against the inner vessel being Suevic is the width of the funnel. However this must be an optical illusion because everything else screams Suevic. The poop deck rules out everything post-war smaller than Suevic. The lack of a mainmast rules out Persic. The date rules out Runic. There are a number of other little details that favour Suevic as well. Of the older W class with poop decks, all are ruled out on mainmast.

Only a brave man would choose between Corinthic and Athenic for the outer vessel (I presume both were converted to cargo only?).
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Wed, 2 April 08 06:24

One thing is for sure, it's the River Fal, not the Blackwater.
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Wed, 2 April 08 06:40

I have asked David if he has any further details about his post.

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Wed, 2 April 08 07:23

A private message from David


Paul,

The picture in question is from my Kodak colour slide which is dated September 1967. This date indicates when the film was developed, not when the photo was taken. However I feel sure that I would not have let more than a few days elapse before processing. It may be helpful to fix the date more precisely if I post a couple more shots from the same film, although unfortunately I did not take any more shots of the SSA vessels. I will do this today. Looking through the film it is clear that there were a number of Federal ships at Silley Cox & Co Falmouth for overhaul at this time, possibly suggesting a period of poor trading. Note also in the background of one of the photos the Bulgarian liner "Varna" which I think had just completed conversion from Furness Withy's "Ocean Monarch" If the date of this conversion is known there you have it!

Kind regards,

David

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Wed, 2 April 08 10:13

Well, as Miramar shows the name change to Varna as 1967 - no month, your date looks right David.

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Wed, 2 April 08 15:46

The ships are Corinthic and Suevic - they are lying off Tolverne where Smugglers Cottage is, on the River Fal.
There time in the River was the following
Corinthic arr 7.7.67 - sld 30.8.67
Suevic arr 20.7.67 - sld 29.8.67

Hope this answers all your questions,

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Wed, 2 April 08 17:14

Thanks. I have edited the title so that if anyone does a Gallery search they will show up.

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Tue, 15 July 08 09:05

I was there but unfortunately I sailed on both of them so can only say without getting up in the loft that I'm sure one is the Corinthic, we were laid up as we were out of sync with the lamb season as I remember,just a skeleton crew. It was a wonderful break the weather was just what a summer should be. We used a life boat as a taxi service to sail up to Malpas and made full use of the pub there. Getting back late at night from the pub was more of an adventure.The ship's chippy I seem to recall was Charlie Wishaw and we with someone else I can't recall hired our own small boat and used to fish for mackerel of an evening.It came hard when we joined the real world once more.
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