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aliaga type 42s

from left to right nottingham, southampton witht the bow area now all but gone and exeter on the right

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i think a preserved T22 would be an easier attraction to use, as the 2 deck passage down the middle is much easier to use than the T42 one that encircle the ship, if my memory serves me right to get from a workshop on 1 deck midships on a T42 to the officers mess next door, you have to go down to 2 deck either all the way rond the aft or fwd loop and up again, or get shouted at cutting through the main control room!!!!!!!
 

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Glad we're singing from the same hymn sheet cockerhoop. The 22 had character and history, especially Brilliant and Broadsword. Perhaps, we could buy them back from Brazil when they are decomissioned in around 2020, because by then we'll have nothing left to preserve or left of the fleet?
 

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The ex-Brilliant is being used for spares, so why not look at her for preservation? She had history.
 

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A - No one would be interested in seeing them
B- A massive financial loss would be incurred
C- There is no valid reason to save a 22
 

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there needs to be a combination of making any preservation economically viable and historically important / popular. I agree the 42 & 22 would not attract much interest from the public, however there are other more worthy vessels afloat worth considering, the obvious one being Hermes, that could also incorporate a aircarft museum, however the cost would be far too great to even consider without substantial government aid, other such as Llandaff, Lynx, (both cold war & cod war connections), Type 21's the majority having Falkland histories, however the most obvious & sensible would be Plymouth and Whimberal, both with significant historic history and economic viability.
 

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Alternatively, to the 22s, when the P Navy have finished with them, there are 5 with histories, Ex-Amazon not being the combat veteran in 82.
 

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Jack T21s you mean, we have HMS Plymouth where the Falkland surrender was signed and she cannot make a profit, and Belfast from WW2
would love to see one of the Nuke subs better marketed, Courageous is at Devonport but is a difficult attraction to access
 

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The Type 21s were good looking but Christ were they crap!! They are even worse contenders then the 42s. I do think Plymouth is a logical choice for Falklands/Cold War, then Whimbrel as a WW2 escort is already preserved. No doubt though any new funding will go to HMS Caroline and rightfully so for an exceptionally unique ship. The other no naval presevation project is the Nomadic which will hold her own with the Titanic/Belfast connection.

Waverley got lucky for 2012 with a lottery winner coming to her aid otherwise she might have been finished. Don't even get me started on the replica Medway Queen they are supposedly restoring......
 

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Yes, cockerhoop, the 21s. Stevo, not sure the 21s were all that bad. They did take a great deal of damage before the Ardent and the Antelope were lost, unlike the 42s, which sunk pretty quickly. One Exocet unexploded caused the loss of the Sheffield. Note in 1988, USS Stark took 2 live exocets and returned to service after refit. The 21s were not supposed to be upgraded, so sold on, but Pakistan has done well with them nearly 40 years on and upgraded them - marvellous. If the 21s had been weapons upgraded, instead of using a single quadrouple out of date Seacat launcher, and the ally reduced, they would have been excellent ships for the RN, which were designed by Vosper and Thornycroft. Can't say the same about the 42s. Like the 42s (stretch) they had strengtheners because they started cracking, due to the blue water exploits in the South Atlantic. Note they were the Saabs of the Seas of their day and not designed for the blue water campaign in 82. Again, where there is a will, there is a way to preserve ships.
 

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