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This photo taken by Fuerza Aérea de Chile and annotated by Gingerbeer shows the little cruise ship Explorer ex Linblad Explorer before she sank. Everyone has abandoned ship but .... much discussion between my mates has developed as to why she is moving astern at perhaps 3 knots.There are several ph

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Barnsey & Gingerbeer
I have seen an engineer's post of an explanation for this on the web. It was either in the Explorer thread on this site or in Shipspotting I think.
From memory it went along the lines that when a particular control oil pressure failed (on submersion of the pump?) the lack of pressure either let the propellor go into astern pitch (was it a VPP?) or engaged the astern train in the gearbox.
Must dash now, but if you can't find it I'll have a search later
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I am coming (so far) to the conclusion that the bigger outlet is the Ballast Pump discharge and the smaller one the generator overboard. I don't think the main engines are running. Windage I say !! Controversial I realise !!(Thumb)
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Barnsey do you have permission to upload these 2 photos??
I see you credit them to the Chilean Airforce but I can't find them on that site nor a statement that they are free to use.
 

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Hi Davie,
I think that Barnsey has probably gone to bed now (NZ) but here is the address that he would have got the pictures from if that helps.
http://www.bymnews.com/photos/displayimage.php?album=518&pid=51021

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Tonga,
May I ask where you got this from. I am aware that the idea was put forward on this forum earlier and he is saying the same thing. I myself am not so sure, I don't think the engines are running at all. There is some sort of electricity on later in the day.
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I am sorry, I think I may have strayed from the factually correct and into an area of doubtful conclusion based on insufficient information – when I wrote that original posting (above) I was reasonably confident that I had it from a responsible comment about the VPP reacting in an uninvited fashion, but the more I look for it, the less I find. I would therefore retreat and merely say that “the "astern" was apparently unintentional and was possibly the result of the oil pressure failure..”
My apologies for the misleading comment.
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Tonga .... firstly Colin was correct in advising where I had got the pics from and I credited them to the Chileans as they were credited so on the BYM site ... which has superlative pics of all sorts of marine incidents ... excellent ones from the MCA of the Riverdance for example.

Then I am going to "Take you to task" ( VERY VERY tongue in cheek by the way) for apologising to Thurlow .. aka Gingerbeer and to me as "A BRAT". "As a "BRAT" he has to suffer the fate of always being wrong whether he is right or wrong.

You will notice in his earlier post that he tried to persuade everyone he was correct that the sternway on the Explorer was not caused by engines ..... he's shifty y'know? comes with being a BRAT.

... I can hear everyone asking why is he a BRAT??? Because he was on Worcester during the 1960's and that bunch of cadets destroyed everything on the Worcester including the Institution and finally the ship herself, you name it and they saw the end of it ....burn our lovely racing Whalers and Gigs, stuffed the Upper deck up with suntan lotion and grease ad oil from goodness knows where .... he's a BRAT I tell you ... a BRAT !! ... and shame on me, I let it out that this site existed to him .... !!!!

His wife does beautifull watercolour paintings apart from which she must also be long suffering putting up with him....

I understand he is a very passable Marine Engineer for all his sins.

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Dear Older OW (aka Barnsey),(==D)

Thank you for your kind and insufferable verbal diarrhoea. You do say the nicest things about me and I really do appreciate your older guidance in my never ending quest for enlightenment.(Jester)

Tonga, no problem, it's nice to "chat" to an obvious gentleman.

Although I have been maintaining that the engines are not running, it may of course not have been the case a few moments before the pictures of her going astern were taken. If that is the case, the VPP propeller may have gone into astern although I can't remember this reaction in the event of a power failure. Would be very very embarrassing under a rig in the North Sea.

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Colin
 

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