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Alan,
The visible ranks from left are: Uncertificated Engineer, 3/E (your father of course), 2/E and C/E.
I'd suggest the tall chap at the back be the 4th, whilst the fellow on the right behind the Chief is a 5/E, with the other 5/E the fellow on the extreme left (with Uncertificated Engineer braid).
The visible ranks from left are: Uncertificated Engineer, 3/E (your father of course), 2/E and C/E.
I'd suggest the tall chap at the back be the 4th, whilst the fellow on the right behind the Chief is a 5/E, with the other 5/E the fellow on the extreme left (with Uncertificated Engineer braid).
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