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Oriana On Trials (The Arran Measured Mile)

Oriana On Trials (The Arran Measured Mile)

Although this famous photo has appeared before,(never this quality) I recently aquired an original copy for my collection (took me 10 years!) Oriana attained a mean speed of 30.64 knots under very adverse weather conditions whilst there was a wind of force seven.Indeed in my time aboard, just out of

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Fine photograph. Perhaps you can give the background to the Golden Cockerel atop the Monkey island? Captain Vickers did explain it to me on one occasion and I have a photo of it, but ...
 

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As a bridge seaman on Oriana I spent many hours with 'Brasso' cleaning the Cockerel. Commodore Reid was a stickler for a clean Cockerel so even after a shower of rain one would see the deck boy or bridge seaman up there with a bit o rag polishing away!!
I did see photograph of a golden cockerel being transferred from ship to ship looked like the Suez in the background, as recent as a few years ago. As ships change so rapidly these days I don't know if they bother with this Icon anymore.
Check this link http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/71/password/0/sort/1/cat/500/page/1 LOL.Simon.
 

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Simon, Did you here that when the Oriana was doing those speed trials she heeled over to one side, causing quite a panic, apparently some valve had stuck below somewhere"remember I'm only a Baker" and adjustments had to be made quickly for fear over rolling over. The scuppers in the Galley all erupted with sea water which made quite a mess. Funny how years later she was to end up on her side. Lofty
 

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Hi Lofty,
I was not on board in those real early days but a great friend Cyril Smith who was then a quartermaster did tell me that story (& many others!) she (the ship!) always suffered from stability problems it was a consuming passion for the junior officer of the watch to be phoning the engine room for a change of load in the double bottoms!!, hence the scupper incident which was fixed along with heaps of other idiosyncrasies that appeared on such an innoative ship.
Simon.
 

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Very interesting Simon. In a number of the 1950/60 RN frigates as the fuel oil was used up it had to be replaced with sea water and the continued operation of the boilers depended upon the efficiency of the oily-water seperators. This does not happen in modern cruise ships that so many members think are unstable.

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Talking of stability, Oriana has just turned but is not listing like the present Oriana does when she turns even a little, not a big sweep like that. I have never thought that modern cruise ships are unstable, but they certainly list more when turning than smaller ships like the old Oriana (pictured) or Canberra. I have no idea why that is, all I do know is that it happens every time, and the new Oriana is not as good in a heavy sea as the old one because I have sailed on both. The only thing I found when sailing on the old Oriana to sort her medical records out was that she vibrated down aft. And the new Oriana has a slight vibration, but nothing like the old one.

By the way Simon, you may know quite a few people I do from Captains to Coxswains etc?. I was aboard Oriana in the summer of 1974, from 18th August to 1st September before returning to Arcadia. I can't remember who her captain was. It could have been Peter Love or Jock Lefevre(can't rememeber spelling) All I do know is that her Dispenser was Jack Last, ex Iberia. Also, I think the Golden Cockeral went to Canberra, who transferred it to the new Oriana. I have two tapes made by P&O of Canberra with this in it. Rory Smith certainly transferred something to Oriana. I must look it up to see what it is. Both tapes trace her history right up to her final cruise. David
 

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The vibration problem did manifest itself rather more after the mishap in the Panama,how well we all remember the drinks & ice rattling away in The Stern Gallery,& a pleasant massage under ones feet as one played deck quoits on 'A' deck aft,they made a couple of movies for publicity on Oriana,I have some old footage on VHS that I must transfer before technology gets ahead of us!!
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Pompeyfan, while you're waiting for Simon to answer your question from last June, allow me to mention that I sailed in the Oriana as a passenger from Bermuda to San Francisco in late October through mid-November 1975, when the very amusing Peter Love was Staff Captain and the Old Man was Captain Wacher. Her surgeon at the time was Dr Neath.

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Hi Guys,
Rip van Winkle here, wot have I missed ?
I read on this thread from Rutts that you have seen photos of the demise of Oriana and her final rotting in Asia and on another thread a post by Loftybaker that "she has ended up on her side"
Has her agony ended ?
Am I missing a bit
Ted
 

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