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Unknown = Medusa

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Originally unknown tanker victim of the gulf war, now recognised as Medusa

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You have some great photos Dom,
but with regard to this one , can you give any more info ? where / when , if at all possible ?
I think I can guess where the missile struck her !!

Regards,
Rick
 

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Looks like she could be ex BP to me, one of the P class VLCCs sold to the Iranians in the early 80s. Alistair and John will probably fill in the details.
I would myself, but need to get packing, off to sea again this afternoon!
 

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Ok Jim,
bon voyage and hope she is a good vessel!
I will do some research a bit later.

Hope you have a good Christmas somewhere deep sea , tranquil & warm!

Regards,
Rick
 

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Jim you just won't know how many groans have been made upon reading the last line of your comment! Have a good trip.
 

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Jim, can't believe you are deserting us for the holiday season, I was one of the ones who groaned! Hope you have a great trip and are back before too long. I can't make up my mind if this is one of BP's "P" class, the damage is so extensive that it's difficult to be sure. 2 of the "P" class were damaged in the Iran/Iraq war, British Pride which had been sold to the National Iranian Tanker Co. and renamed Susangird, British Promise, also sold to the NITC and renamed Sanandaj, and also the British Pioneeer, an earlier 215,000 tonner, which had been sold to firstly to Tishpion Navigation, renamed Tishpion and sold again to C.U.N.V. Ticaret T.A.S., Turkey, and renamed M. Ceyhan. The Pioneer can be discounted as she was built by Mitsui and looked quite different to the the other two, her accommodation, bridgewings and signal mast don't fit this picture. Of the Pride and the Promise , the ex British Pride was attacked by Iraqi aircraft twice on the 9th & 10th December 1987 and was badly fire damaged with 22 of her crew being killed. However, she was considered repairable and arrived at Singapore on 14.04.1988 for reconstruction. She continued to trade until scrapped in 1995 and so I don't think this can be her. That leaves the ex British Promise and some of the features in this picture fit her. The second accommodation level spanning out to the ships side is correct, as is the very bare poop deck and the tripod signal mast. The stubby bridge wings also look right. So, of the "P" class I'd plump for the British Promise, 253,839 DWT built by Verolme Dok & Scheepswerf, Rosenburg, in 1974 and sold the N.I.T.C. in 1976. As Sanandaj she was attacked by Iraqi aircraft on 30.08.1987 while loading at Kharg Island and badly damaged. She was still at Kharg when she was attacked again on the 19th March 1988 and set on fire. 26 of her crew of 30 were killed in this second attack. She was reported as eventually sunk off Kharg Island. I wouldn't claim this is a 100% guaranteed I.D. but it's the best I can come up with.
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Alastair
 

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Yet again a brilliant piece of analysis by Alastair - well done. I wouldn't dare to comment further other than to back you up that it could not possibly be British Pioneer - Tishpion as her accomodation block did not suffer to this extent.

ps. - Jim, may I wish you Bon Voyage - take care and we look forward to hearing your news.
 

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Jim,
Hope you get a happy ship - which one is it? Have a great Christmas & and an even better Hogmanay. Don't drink & drive on the 8-12!
Haven't had a chance to look at this photo & make comparisons yet. At least there's no stanchions to count.
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John.
 

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Alastair & Jim,
I'm not totally convinced that this is the ex Promise. Yes - she has a tripod signal mast, the bridgewings look correct & she has a very bare poop. However, unless her rudder was replaced at some time or the bombing damage has somehow forced the rudder stock out of its housing, the photo that I have of the Promise in ballast, taken from the starboard quarter, (Norman Middlemiss: The British Tankers, revised edition 1995) shows a rather different rudder profile. Regret that I'm away from home so cannot scan & post photo but watch this space & I'll try & post side by side photos for the jury to judge on Sunday/Monday.
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John F.
 

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I look forward to seeing the picture you refer to John, I haven't got that edition of the British Tankers and there are different pictures of her in the '89 & 2005 editions. I can't think why anyone would have replaced her rudder so, if it's not the same as shown in your "in ballast" picture, then she's not ex BP. I wouldn't be too surprised at that as there are other features that don't fully tie in with the ex Promise. The shape of the after part of the deck housing on which the funnel would have stood doesn't look right but given the extent of the damage it's hard to be certain.She also has what looks like a radar scanner on a short mast on the port side of the Monkey Island which she didn't start life with. All of which could well leave the interesting question of who she is open again. Time for more digging perhaps once we've seen your photo.
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Alastair
 

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