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R396040 19th January 2009 20:36

Alsatia/Andria Cunard
 
Anyone remember these two ? Both ex Silver Line and distinctive because of their twin funnels. Good ships mine was Alsatia circa early sixties with good memories

Monket 19th January 2009 20:43

Signed on the Alsatia as an EDH March 1962, left after one trip to Canada, too blerdy cold.

joebuckham 19th January 2009 21:00

alsatia and andria bought 1951 from silver line, ex silverplane and silverbriar respectively. built j. l. thompsons sunderland 1948. they then became union freedom and union faith, the latter, i believe, collided with a petrol barge on the mississippi in 1969 and was burnt out.

the for'd funnel housed the chart room

Brian Lawson 10th June 2009 17:14

Arthur Lawson
 
My father and grandfather worked on both these ships in the 50's and 60's.

david hunt 12th August 2009 20:16

These two were always my favourite ships. Although I never went to sea as a career, I did drive for Cunard Avonmouth office, and went aboard both of these. I was driving a hire car and working for my Father who supplied the car and we took the Captains and Officers, Engineers, and Chief Stewards of all for Cunard related vessels. These were Donaldson Line, which were back and forth across the pond. Port Line which did the Australasia trips, Brocklebank, on the Indian routes, and the occasional Cunard cargo ship. We had the four Med boats at different times. The Assyria called on one occasion, and the two mentioned at the start. I remember the Captain of the Alsatia asking the Cunard agent if I would go to his cabin on sailing day, and he gave me a five shilling tip. Now, that may not seem much, but my weekly wage at the time, was five pounds before stoppages. For this, I was expected to go out for any and every journey required by the agents. Tide times are variable so any time of docking or sailing, and any time during the day or night, but the day time was usually from about half nine to one thirty. Back again about three until about five-thirty/six-ish, and then return whatever time the ship sailed or one arrived. The Captains cabin was in the former funnel as I recall. Even to this day, I like these two ships, and I frequently look at the photo's I have of them, both as Cunarders, and Silver Line vessels. Dave H.

R58484956 13th August 2009 09:55

Greetings David and welcome to SN on your posting. Bon voyage.

Blade Fisher 9th October 2011 21:56

Alsatia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Lawson (Post 330745)
My father and grandfather worked on both these ships in the 50's and 60's.

What years are we talking about here? My dad was a 3/E on the Alsatia in early 1956.

Regards

Richard Carr

KYRENIA 9th October 2011 22:43

My father was greaser on ALSATIA early 60`s. AB`s were Dickie Austins and "Watmo" , Lived in North Woolwich.
Cheers, John.

Old Cunarder 19th October 2011 19:53

Is it true extra strengthening had to be added, between the for part of the superstructure and the weather deck to cope with the North Atlantic weather?

R396040 19th October 2011 20:08

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Originally Posted by Old Cunarder (Post 545454)
Is it true extra strengthening had to be added, between the for part of the superstructure and the weather deck to cope with the North Atlantic weather?

Cant recall that.They were good seaships though in my opinion and I enjoyed my time on both of them early sixties. They LOOKED good too,
Stuart H

Cunarder8 1st November 2011 19:48

Anybody reading this on board the Alsatia when she ran aground in the Chesapeake Canal on way from New York to Newport News in 1956 or 57 ?

ANDREW JON WILSON 22nd February 2012 12:13

I was 3rd Mate on Andria for one voyage ex London to Canada /USA in Dec/Jan 1963. The senior apprentice was Paul watts, cousin of Charie Watts of Rolling Stones fame I believe and his uncle was Cunard Commodore at that time.What a wonderful elegant vessel she was and so fast averaging 17-18 knots regularly.Next voyage I was brought down to earth with maximum 8 knot , wartime 'Sands' boat 'Brescia on the Meddy run. !! happy days.

Cunarder8 9th March 2015 16:38

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Originally Posted by Cunarder8 (Post 548689)
Anybody reading this on board the Alsatia when she ran aground in the Chesapeake Canal on way from New York to Newport News in 1956 or 57 ?

The Bosun back in '56,'57',58 was a jolly Irishman named Barney Fagan.....anyone remember that ?

William Clark8 11th March 2015 12:52

Andria
 
Last of the Two funnelled ships. Was on her Mar, '61 then got transferred to Alaunia as Cat. boy

ANDREW JON WILSON 11th March 2015 23:51

Andria
 
I joined her in Tilbury end November 1962 and did one voyage as Third Mate leaving her january 1963.
What a most handsome vessel with passenger accommodation for 12 and fitted out to a very high standard,eg beautiful wood paneling etc. huge central staircase with pollished brass rails etc. Our personal cabins were brilliant. Our Captain was H.A Stonehouse and think the senior deck apprentice was Paul Watts, cousin i believe of Charlie Watts of Rolling Stones fame later to become Ships Master in the Far East. V. Happy days and wonderful camaraderie. I believe she was sold shortly afterwards. I have a wonderful picture of her in full flight heading west from Dungeness. Best Wishes, AJW

Captain Paul Watts 11th September 2015 20:09

Deck Cadet on Andria
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by R396040 (Post 283662)
Anyone remember these two ? Both ex Silver Line and distinctive because of their twin funnels. Good ships mine was Alsatia circa early sixties with good memories

I was a deck cadet on Andria in December 1962. We spent Christmas in the port of Halifax. I think New Year's eve the ship was in St. Johns, New Brunswick. As the junior deck cadet it was my job to go up on to the bridge at midnight and blow the whistle to welcome in the New Year. However, I didn't make it to the bridge, having collapsed on the stairs somewhere on the way up due to excessive consumption of alcohol. The Andria, as a result, was the only ship in the port that didn't blow the whistle at midnight.

The other two deck cadets on the ship with me were John Griffith and John Bubb. Both a lot fun and great to sail with.
Andy Wilson was the 3rd Officer, I can't remember the 2nd Officer's name but he was very good at helping us cadets with our studies and signal practice on the bridge.

The Chief Officer was a real character Peter Brush - as mad as a hatter. I remember Brush on the focsle whilst the ship was tying up in KGV dock, London wearing a long fur coat and with a long haired wig on holding up a jumbo comb in his hand, he shouted down to somebody on the quayside "what time do the barbers open". He had a pilot's license and the story goes that he flew a plane between the funnels of one of the original "Queens". He was called into Cunard's office and admonished but not sacked for this prank.

When I was on Andria I saw from some old deck log books that my uncle Captain Frederic Watts had been Master on Andria in the 1950's. My uncle was later Commodore of Cunard.

I was still on the Andria in London in 1963 when she was handed over to the new Taiwanese owners. A whole bunch of Chinese came on board and when walking passed them they would salute me and the other cadets as we were in officer's uniform. We found it very amusing and made an effort to walk passed as many Chinese as possible just for more salutes.
A lot of us took something as a souvenir off the ship when it was sold. I still have a brass oil lamp with a concave face. It was a bridge telegraph lamp used to illuminate the telegraph in the event of a blackout.

When in London Cunard would put a public phone on board for crews' use - the old fashioned button B type. I remember when a clerk from the office would come to remove the phone shortly before sailing and saying he couldn't understand why there wasn't more money in the box. I knew why as I used to upend the box and shake the money out, after all I was only earning four quid a week then (or was it a month?)

Captain Paul Watts 15th September 2015 13:19

Just a further correction, it was Surrey Commercial Docks where Andria was tying up when C/O Brush had his wig on. Actually it wasn't his wig, he'd borrowed it from one of the stewards who used to go ashore in drag.

Colin E Smith 28th July 2016 21:21

Hi Paul, I'm Colin Smith. What a drag back to very happy times, we sailed together on the Andania with John Bubb. I also lodged with your Mother in Waterloo Road when I was up for Second Mates. Glad to see that you are still with it, I have very fond memories of your Mother and Father. Do you any idea where John Bubb is? Regards Colin.

Captain Paul Watts 17th September 2016 07:26

Hi Colin,
Nice to here from you after all these years. I tried sending you an email through this website. Did you receive it?

howardang 17th September 2016 16:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colin E Smith (Post 2113562)
Hi Paul, I'm Colin Smith. What a drag back to very happy times, we sailed together on the Andania with John Bubb. I also lodged with your Mother in Waterloo Road when I was up for Second Mates. Glad to see that you are still with it, I have very fond memories of your Mother and Father. Do you any idea where John Bubb is? Regards Colin.

Hello Colin,

I'm Howard Anguish and sailed with a number of people mentioned in this thread, including John Bubb, although not on the two ships in question. I spent a number of years both on the cargo ships (including the above mentioned Brescia!) and the 2 passenger ships Sylvania and Carinthia, and latterly Atlantic causeway, before transferring to Offshore Marine which had become a subsidiary of Cunard. Until last year John Bubb was a senior manager at Harwich Haven Authority but I have no idea of his contact details. Maybe they can help you.

Regards

Howard

john2 17th January 2017 21:05

my uncle john goss born 1912 in cork/ he was f/trimmer sailed on the alsatia 1956
my mother lost all contact with him /hope some one might know what become of him /got a number s1127096y/ i am new to the site/he was in the merchant navy since he was young /love to hear any info about him


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