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sparkie2182 2nd July 2007 00:20

Fleetwood Nautical College
 
Any Takers????????????????????? :)

nhp651 2nd July 2007 00:28

my mother worked there as cook in charge, in the days when Ted Heath was p.m.she could tell a few tales, she could?

sparkie2182 2nd July 2007 00:33

she would have supervised my chips..........nnp651...........:)

lovely they were .........:)

i remember it was a mrs gabbitas when i jioned in 1971..........

nhp651 2nd July 2007 00:38

she was a b****y good cook, god bless her, but stood no nonsence.once threw a jug of orange juice over a cadet 'cos he called her a silly ol' moo. she was a red head and lived upto the trait. still got the spanking marks on my assienda to proove it!

sparkie2182 2nd July 2007 00:57

yes...............

it shows how times have changed.................

it would have ended in a court case these days......

i was there when ted heath visited the college when he was p.m..........

being a yachtsman......the college was on his list of "must visits" when he was in the fylde region.

i remember being in the library when he came in with his entourage.......
all silence and deep study...............

just like any other day really..............:)

best regards............

nhp651 2nd July 2007 09:16

He was my mother's hero, said she'd vote for a pig if it were dressed in blue. when I said Ted looked like a pig, she chased me all over the house with a slipper. She was on the serving hatch that day, and her knees went to jelly when she served him a meal. I think only meeting the Pope would have surpassed that moment for her! Her name was Ida, (Irene as she told all who asked as she didn't like the name Ida) Pritchard

sparkie2182 2nd July 2007 14:36

i must have know her nhp.......but my memory isnt so wonderfull these days.....:)

i do remember....... no one ever went hungry though, and my daily plate of chips always went down a treat.

funny, but i dont remember eating anything else in those days.........:)

Eric Walter 2nd July 2007 23:45

Fleetwood Navigation School
 
I did my pre-sea at Fleetwood Navigation School 1963/64. At that time the school was situated in a building on Station Road, just off Dock Street. The radio lads used an annexe in an old school which I think was on Blakiston Street.
The head of the school was Captain Carruthers. Other staff were Roger Scholes, Bruce Taylor, and Neil Robertson. Another popular member of staff was 'Jed' Stone who looked after the trawler lads but taught us ropework. A less popular member of staff was John Shaw, a non-seafarer, who took us for maths and physics.
Cadets I remember were Brian Raven of Irlam who joined Manchester Liners, Sid Barnish and ? Bates (Bibby Line) of Preston, ? Worthington of Carleton, near Blackpool, Norman ? of Derby and ? ? of Wrea Green (South American Saint). At the time the main focus of attention was the "Burridge Blonde" who worked in Burridge's cafe and newsagents which was frequented by the lads.

I returned in 1968 to do my Second Mates. By then the new college had opened at Broadwater. I think it was called Lancashire Nautical College in those days and the lads focus of attention was now one of the young secretaries (brunette with gorgeous eyes) who worked at the college.

Happy days

Eric Walter

sparkie2182 2nd July 2007 23:59

thanks eric........

capt "charlie" carruthers..........principle

"pat" shaw.........as u say.........non seafarer but high in the power game

tom stone........lieut cdr R.N.R.........spent his war fishing for u-boats.
a "real" seaman and splendid man.......always wore blue pinstripe "demob" suits........but not a better man sailed the sea.

i dont remember the ladies in your post eric..........cos i was too busy studying to notice...........:)

nhp651 3rd July 2007 00:22

Ohhhh, Eric. I suppose you'd have crawled over broken glass , as they say? Reminds me of other days of a certain lady called Linda Shannon?

Eric Walter 3rd July 2007 08:46

Careful Neil or people will get the wrong impression.

Eric

aspinani 16th July 2007 23:43

did my deck officer traing there periodically from 78 to 82 - was located on the entrance to Flletwood at that time off the main roundabout.
The accomodation looked like a building exploding with blue boils - i think eventually got barred from most of the pubs in Fleetwood and Cleveleys - but Blackpool was far more accomodating!!

Food was ok whilst we were there two - joined with a group of 12 other BP deck cadets - 2 weeks induction then off to Iran on a chartered ship - 78/79 - right at the time of the revolution - 7 months on board and only got off once - great first trip !!

moaf 17th July 2007 01:29

I'm going to swing it round here, I was there in 94 doing a maritime foundation course because i did crap at school. Best year of my life and as a 16 year old really sorted me out. I'm a chief now and have Fleetwood to thank for it!

MartynS 27th December 2007 16:59

Fleetwood Nautical College 1972 to 1974
 
It was still Fleetwood Nautical College when I did my induction there as a naive 16 year old staying at the Royal National Mission for Deep Sea Fishermen in 1972. After 2 weeks there I went off to join the Worcestershire (Bibby Line) in Hamburg and was taken to the Reeperbahn for the bits of my induction that Fleetwood Nautical College left out!!!!

I did a double header on the Worcestershire and then a trip on the Cheshire, which took me well over the requisite 12 months seatime before I could go back to Fleetwood

By the time I got back to Fleetwood in late 1973 on the ONC Nautical Studies Course, I was a lot less naive and my memories seem to revolve mainly around McGinty's Goat in Blackpool (where I was in overflow digs on Warbreck Drive) and the then college anthem of Hi Ho Silver Lining of Jeff Beck fame!

Those were the days!!!!

Once I became an Uncert 3/O, Bibby's had no inclination to return me to Fleetwood to complete my ticket and their refusal to let me go back to college was ultimately my reason for leaving. I hadn't intended to permanently leave the sea at that time, just change companies, but I was young and foolish and did not make sure that I had another Line to go to before I quit.

Martyn Sutton




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Originally Posted by ezzer (Post 137778)
I did my pre-sea at Fleetwood Navigation School 1963/64. At that time the school was situated in a building on Station Road, just off Dock Street. The radio lads used an annexe in an old school which I think was on Blakiston Street.
The head of the school was Captain Carruthers. Other staff were Roger Scholes, Bruce Taylor, and Neil Robertson. Another popular member of staff was 'Jed' Stone who looked after the trawler lads but taught us ropework. A less popular member of staff was John Shaw, a non-seafarer, who took us for maths and physics.
Cadets I remember were Brian Raven of Irlam who joined Manchester Liners, Sid Barnish and ? Bates (Bibby Line) of Preston, ? Worthington of Carleton, near Blackpool, Norman ? of Derby and ? ? of Wrea Green (South American Saint). At the time the main focus of attention was the "Burridge Blonde" who worked in Burridge's cafe and newsagents which was frequented by the lads.

I returned in 1968 to do my Second Mates. By then the new college had opened at Broadwater. I think it was called Lancashire Nautical College in those days and the lads focus of attention was now one of the young secretaries (brunette with gorgeous eyes) who worked at the college.

Happy days

Eric Walter


jaydeeare 6th February 2008 23:44

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I attended my Navigation Cadet Training here in '67 to '68.

I remember Capt. Carruthers well. He was a short stocky man who had his own table at lunchtime. Whenever we raised or lowered the ensign he would watch to see if it ever touched the ground, 6p in the Lifeboat Box if it did!

Jed Stone was a real ace character. We had him for Practical Seamanship, ropework and stitching (either a ditty bag or a rucksack).

Pat Shaw was held in awe, as his wife was Swedish, I believe. He kicked off he rugby team as well.

As for Linda the secretary!!! WOW!!! What a stunner!!

Also remembering Mr. Ollerton, (Master Mariner), Mr. Wilson (English and Librarian), "Isaac" Hunt (PE), Dougie Stott (Navigation and Physics). Finally, I believe that Roger Scholes became the Principal after Capt. Carruthers retired.

One thing I will remember well were the Monday morning inspections. We had to be smart in those days!

Well, my Navigation days came to an abrupt end when I went for my Seaman's Docs and failed on my eyesight. So I returned to the College on a Sparks Course. Failed the finals too many times, so I left in '70.

So, from the Sparks Lecturers, Mr. Pilgrim, "Abu" Can't remember his surname now - sorry, Hughie McGurk, Don Bee.

Anyway, this is sad, but I still have my college cap! I found it tucked away in my wardrobe this weekend. This find got me harking back 40 years - hence my finding and registering on this excellent site! so, for all your 'pleasure', I've here is the picture of the Fleetwood Nautical college cap badge. I'm sure it will bring back a number of memories for past Students!

Oh! I almost forgot the mother of an old friend of mine, Mrs. Packer in the Office with the delectable Linda (whose legs never seemed to end).

sparkie2182 7th February 2008 00:08

jaydeeare.............

"abu" watson.......... also known as neville..........:)

the "abu" came about, cos they was the registration letters of his campervan........simple as that.

you see how informative s.n. can be after all these years?

don bee, ted hackett, ray pilgrim, arthur bill and john laughland........all keeping well, im pleased to report.

best regards from another ex fleetwood cadet (and later fleetwood lecturer)

p.s..................

you are right about tom stone being an "ace character"........one of the very best

jaydeeare 7th February 2008 14:18

Thanks for the info and update, Sparkie :)

Once you mentioned about Abu's campervan it all came back to me! Wasn't it a Commer? He used to take it when we were out in the Lake District hiking for our D of E Award (never got it ,did anyone?).

They were all good lecturers, I can still remember a lot of the Nav stuff after all these years. They all left a lasting impression on me.

If any other ex -Cadets attended during Nav course '67 - '68 or Sparks course '68 to '70 want to get in touch, I'd be glad to hear from you!

Lifeboat1721 7th February 2008 19:29

I took my Marine Radio Operators test there in 89, the licence is now Void due to updating of systems(Cloud) (Cloud)

Ian

Quiney 4th October 2008 20:42

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Originally Posted by sparkie2182 (Post 185620)
jaydeeare.............

"abu" watson.......... also known as neville..........:)

the "abu" came about, cos they was the registration letters of his campervan........simple as that.

you see how informative s.n. can be after all these years?

don bee, ted hackett, ray pilgrim, arthur bill and john laughland........all keeping well, im pleased to report.

best regards from another ex fleetwood cadet (and later fleetwood lecturer)

p.s..................

you are right about tom stone being an "ace character"........one of the very best

I was there between 72-75 for my MRGC and DTI radar.

For the first year we were in the Dorchester Hotel on the prom near to the model boating lake.

Mr Wilson took us for painting during Liberal Studies on a Wednesday afternoon.

Another lecturer that I remember who was ex Manchester Liners - I believe he died of cancer several years after I left.

sparkie2182 5th October 2008 00:43

i think that would be Ray Bisby , Quiney.

The Dorchester stalag was wardened by Bob Abrams (ex RAF) and Steve Musgrave.

My first college group was composed of Charlie Balshaw, Neil Brook (ex army) ,John Quine (maybe you), ***** Strickland, Bill Dow, Tony Georgiou,***** Elliot
**** Lyons (from southport) and a further cast of thousands.

feel free to send a PM if you wish Quiney.

best regards.........

Quiney 5th October 2008 20:42

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Originally Posted by sparkie2182 (Post 252184)
i think that would be Ray Bisby , Quiney.

The Dorchester stalag was wardened by Bob Abrams (ex RAF) and Steve Musgrave.

My first college group was composed of Charlie Balshaw, Neil Brook (ex army) ,John Quine (maybe you), ***** Strickland, Bill Dow, Tony Georgiou,***** Elliot
**** Lyons (from southport) and a further cast of thousands.

feel free to send a PM if you wish Quiney.

best regards.........

Hi Sparkie

I was racking my brains for the two wardens at the Dorchester - thanks.

Yep, that me in the group, missing names, John Strickland, Eric Elliot, Maurice Lyons (I went to secondaty school with Maurice) Graham Bassnett, Graham Allison, Bill Dow.

I'll send you a PM

John

Glyndwr 5th October 2008 21:47

Some good times
 
I attended FNC from Sept. 1969 to december 1971. I was in the very first class to sit the DTI general Certificate. Seeing the names of Ray Wilson, Don Bee, Isaac Hunt et al bring back some very good memories. I was in a Class with Nick Heywood from Preston, Roger (Chopper) McLean from Blackpool, Chris Wadsworth from Rippon and Chris Lamb from Kirkham. I myself travelled every day on the bus from Wesham. Most of the cadets stayed in digs and the Jolly Roger was their favourite haunt.

Thanks for reminding me of the good old days. Yes I do remember Linda. One of the older guys was going out with her. Can't for the life of me remember his name - he was a good footballer though. I remember the Monday morning thing. Everyone in the gym with full uniform. In the last year we could dress causal. What a relief but we "pulled" less - the Uniform did it's thing.

Glyn Lewis

Quiney 5th October 2008 22:09

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Originally Posted by Glyndwr (Post 252397)
the Jolly Roger was their favourite haunt.


Glyn Lewis

Sadly no more! the fire on the Fleetwood pier finally put an end to it, although it had not been the JR for some time.

sparkie2182 5th October 2008 22:59

the gym hasnt been a gym for many years either..........

now used as examination room only.............

:)

Eric Walter 5th October 2008 23:34

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Originally Posted by Quiney (Post 252406)
Sadly no more! the fire on the Fleetwood pier finally put an end to it, although it had not been the JR for some time.

Hello chaps,

Was in Fleetwood today. Apart from some rubble and part of the facade the pier has disappeared.

When I did my pre-sea the Jolly Roger didn't exist but myself and two digs mates became pinball wizards in the pier arcade. During our pre-sea (63-64) I don't think we did any drinking.

During 2nd mates we often "lunched" at the Marine (opp the boating lake), and always on dole day. Sadly I noticed today that even that is no longer standing. We often did the Blackpool run. Started at the Vic at Cleveleys, then to see Brian Rossi at a club on the front. Then into Blackpool and the 'Club Revue Bar', a strip club on Talbot Road. Unfortunately the same two strippers, Randy Mandy and Sexy Samantha were always on but that didn't stop us going. We ended up at the Castle Casino on the north Prom. At that time it was run by either Jack Pye, a famous wrestler of the 40's and 50's, or his son, another wrestler, called Dirty Domonic Pye.

jaydeare, thanks for your added info on the delightful and delectable Linda. You have made an old man happy.

Regards to all,

Eric


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