While in Alesund a few months ago I saw this attractive yacht called GRACE and flying the Nederland flag with a cross with a crown in the top corner, see my interpretation from a senile memory.
As I am showing my ignorance could one of you fill me in with some details of the vessel and also the ensign
I have never seen a Dutch flag like that before.
Depicting a crown would mean royalty, but the Dutch swing an orange banner next to the flag when the monarchie is involved.
It could be the house flag of a shipping company.
Yep I've looked all over, but can't find any information of that flag,not as a company or Royal flag, as Jan mentioned, there could be "some Royalty", as for the ship, I never seen/heard of her,and just found a picture on the i-net:and will look further for some info.
Hi Nigel, I have found article this article on a Norwegian website, I am not sure if it is the same ship or not (maybe in her earlier life).
Here is the link.
Ruud - the crown on the ensign could have been slightly different but, as my wife will confirm, that was the general design of the ensign. Unforetunately it was the last shot on my film so could get a pic of the ensign.
Frank - Have looked at the site you mentioned, it is very similar and too much of a coincidence not to be true. The pic there is a drawing I think. There are difference but she could have been modified.
I think it is a totally different ship, even in case she would have been modified.
The port holes are not in same sequence, the anchor is placed not in same spot and both decks are a totally different design.
Asked a few of the Dutch crew onboard here they say this flag is quite common on sailing boats in the Netherland Antillies, they think its from a yacht squadron there
Ahoy Paul,
This is a "golden clue",thanks for that.
Just called the designer [Mr.Ginton-Israel] of the GRACE, and he told me, to contact me next Monday, cos he wasn't in the office at the moment, but in Italy.Well the only thing, he could tell me, that the Grace was Dutch registered at the The Transport and Water Management Inspectorate.About the owner, he will ask,getting his permission to name it.So we have to wait a few days more.I promised him to mail all the facts, so that he will be informed, the best way we could do.(*)) (Applause)
Here my mail: Ahoy, Dear Mr.Ginton, I just called you[in Italy] 24-11-2005,about some information of this very attractive looking yacht,so called the "Grace"; I'm super moderator of one of the biggest forum sites of the world, ShipsNostalgia, in where we discusses all kind of ships,vessels; one of our members[almost 4000] has taken her on photo in Alesund[Norway].The reason why , I made that phonecall is, 'we would like to know some more details of her; Owner/Flag/IMO/CallSign/Measures, so please help us out of this dilemma. Note: Included some files, and our website at: http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/showthread.php?t=3661
Dear Ruud, The Grace is registered as a cargo ship at the "Nederlands Shipping Inspectorate" in Rotterdam. (Inspectie Verkeer en Waterstaat). Dutch flag. Her call sign (roepletters) is PBCR. Id no. 36575 The ship owners: Stentor shipco bv Length over all :40.09m Length water line 36.93m Beam (moulded) 7.90m Maximum draft 2.84m Hull material: Steel Deckhouse 1st tier: Steel Deckhouse 2nd tier: Aluminium
Regards, Jaron Ginton
GINTON naval architects
Zijlweg 148C
2015 BJ Haarlem, Holland
T +31 23 5421985
F +31 23 5422485 www.ginton.com info@ginton.com
Thankyou all very much for your help and pointers for GRACE especially to Ruud for contacting Ginton's. I certainly didn't expect it to be such a serialised saga when I set this inquiry in motion. It nearly became a soap opera.
Once again many thanks
NigelC
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