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Old 13th September 2008, 20:17
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Silly Cox & co Shiprepairers Falmouth

I am trying to locate the company records of Silley Cox & co. shiprepairers
of Falmouth, Cornwall for the years 1939-1945.
According to the book "The Shipbuilding Industry" by L A Richie they are
deposited at the successors to Silley Cox, A & P Appledore (Falmouth) ltd. I have contacted them and they referred me to the NMM Greenwich. The NMM do not hold these documents. I have also tried the NMM. Falmouth, the Cornish Records office Truro, Falmouth library and the National Archive in Kew, all with negative results.
Has anyone come across these records during the course of their research. Any help would be most appreciated.

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Old 14th September 2008, 12:31
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Cornwall records Office have
Falmouth Docks Company.
Catalogue Ref. X 972
Falmouth Docks Company, Falmouth, Cornwall
Interknit Investments (Falmouth) Limited
Trustees of the Silley Cox Workmens Pension Fund

National Archives have
HO 192/1353 Silley Cox and Co Ltd: 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 21 July 1940 and 19 Feb, 8 Apr, 25 Nov 1941 1941-1943
LAB 3/292 Award No. 82 Amalgamated Engineering Union v Silley Cox and Co Ltd: overtime rates. 1941
LAB 3/346 Award No. 264 Amalgamated Engineering Union v Silley, Cox and Company Ltd: application of Award No. 82. 1942
RAIL 1190/146 Silley, Cox & Co Ltd: overhaul to and installation of "Grinnell" automatic sprinkler and fire alarm system in SS St Patrick 1955 Dec

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Old 14th September 2008, 12:35
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Having said that, have you explored the google results (66 useful ones)?
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Old 16th September 2008, 12:40
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Hello Raymond,
Thanks for the input but none of your links came to anything.
I am looking for details of the damaged to the Tanker TEAKWOOD in Sept.1939. I know she was repaired at Falmouth by Silley Cox.

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Hello Raymond,
Thanks for the input but none of your links came to anything.
I am looking for details of the damaged to the Tanker TEAKWOOD in Sept.1939. I know she was repaired at Falmouth by Silley Cox.

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21:00 hrs 21st Sept 1939 whilst in convoy OA.7, was damaged by German submarine U 35 under command of Lott with a torpedo at poisition 49.39N 06.39W.

Base details are

TEAKWOOD
O.N. 149878. 6,014g. 3,708n. 415.1 x 54.8 x 31.4 feet.
T.3-cyl. (27", 45" & 75" x 48") engine made by Wallsend Slipway Company Ltd, Newcastle. 515 NHP.
8.1927: Completed by Armstrong, Whitworth & Company Ltd, Newcastle.

In 1939 her owners were given as Molasses & General Transport Company Ltd, (John I. Jacobs & Company Ltd, managers), London.

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Old 17th September 2008, 00:29
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Thanks for the input Bill.
My apologies for the typo Damaged which should have read Damage which maybe confused you.
Over the years, I have done some extensive research on this U-Boat attack and I am familiar with the details you quote.
The only thing which I'm missing is a report from the ship repair yard as to the extent of the damage and the cost of repair. Photographs of the damage would be the iceing on the cake. I live in hope.

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Old 17th September 2008, 10:29
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Roger,

Don't know where you live but there is a thin chance Lloyd' Register in London could help.

They hold weekly casualty returns going back some years.

Either write and give as much details as possible to limit and refine their search time or phone and ask if they have the info.

A very knowlegable and helpful team of archivists.


Mrs B. Jones
Information Department
Lloyd's Register Of Shipping
71, Fenchurch Street
London
EC3

0207 423 2475 (direct Line to dept)

Good luck.

Bill
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I too would like to trace the wartime record of ships repaired by Siley Cox & Co at Falmouth in the hope of identifying an Arctic convoy escort my father joined from HMS Forte at Falmouth in late 1943 to early 1944.

Have you tried the Falmouth Branch of he National Maritime Museum in Falmouth? I have asked whether they know if the records still exist & await a reply.

As regards Lloyds Casualty Report I have found that details given of wartime casualties are scant whilst whilst minor damage in peacetime is recorded in detail. I have used the Guildhall Library in London to check these records.

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Old 18th September 2008, 16:57
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Thank you both for your input,
I have previously tried all the links you suggest to no avail. It seems the Silley Cox archives have been lost or destroyed.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/n....asp?ID=B25323
Attached an Admiralty report concerning the damage to TEAKWOOD


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Whilst researching Adula I discovered that she was converted to a Merchant Aircraft Carrier (MAC) by this company in Feb 1944.
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Silley Cox Falmouth Company Records

Hello Roger Griffiths,

I may be a few years' late with my reply, but if you are still searching for the Company Records of Silley Cox of Falmouth, then I may have some 'snippets' of information that may be of use to you.
Silley Cox of Falmouth were a (100%?) subsidiary company of the old R & H Green and Silley Weir Ltd whose registered office was at 18 London Street in City of London (in an office block off Fenchurch Street). Accounts of this Company and its Subsidiaries were, however stored / maintained by the Bookkeeping Department in Greengate Street, Plaistow, London, E13 and later moved to offices at the Royal Albert Dock, London, E16. Sadly, this fine old Ship Repairing and Engineering Company ceased trading, I believe, in about 1973 (I left in 1971). The office building has now been demolished and actually stood where the new City Airport runway ends!
One of the senior bookkeepers based at Plaistow/ RAD, used to visit Silley Cox of Falmouth to carry out an annual Audit.
For some years' Green & Silley was virtually a subsidiary of the P & O Company and I suspect you may find some links with them. I do know that a lot of G & SW Company Records can be found at the Greenwich Maritime Museums.
Hope this may be of some use to you.
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Old 8th September 2013, 12:07
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Apoligies, I have only just read your post. I will follow up the P&O connection and try NMM again.
Thanks for posting.
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Old 8th September 2013, 18:40
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Silley Cox, Falmouth

Hello Roger,

Also forgot to mention...1898-1979 Records including corporate accounting records and of subsidiaries, including those of Silley Cox
(1890 - 1960) are archived at the National Register, referencing the NMM, Caird Library, Manuscripts section.
Some items also found in The Green Blackwall Collection.
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The records for ships entering the four dry docks at Silley Cox & Co for repair do still exist. I was in Falmouth for a week in late September 2019 and made some discoveries which will interest you. For details see this page: http://www.holywellhousepublishing.co.uk/Falmouth.html
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Old 24th October 2019, 16:23
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Thanks for the information Bill.
I cannot believe my original post was over 11 years ago!
I have e-mailed Royal Cornwall Polytechnic Society and await an answer.

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