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Joya McCance - Tanker 1967-1969

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Old 18th July 2006, 16:07
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Joya McCance - Tanker 1967-1969

HI,
Has anyone one information on the service dates with Houlders of the above tanker.did approx 6 months on her '73.
quite a fast ship and this could accountfor the amount of vibration throughout the ship[half the pipework was held together with the famous "thistle bond"!!!!]
i also remember that the cargo heating coils were not of a common size and we used to turn the olives from tubular brass in the workshop in the engine room.
was some rumour that originally built as a bulk carrier and later converted to tanker????
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Old 18th July 2006, 16:44
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As far as I'm aware the Joya McCance (2) was built as a tanker. Houlder had an earlier Joya McCance, an ore carrier, and you might be thinking of that.

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Old 18th July 2006, 17:04
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Joya McCance, ore carrier built 1960 at W Gray&Co. loa 514 beam 69 draft 29. Regards Colin
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Old 18th July 2006, 17:58
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Joya McCance (1) Built 1960. 1967 transferred to South American Saint Line renamed St. Margaret. 11,871 tons.

Beauval Built 1964. Chartered to Shell-Mex Ltd, 1967 renamed Joya McCance (2), 1976 scrapped. 26,836 tons.

photos here: http://www.merchant-navy.net/Picture...20macance.html

and here: http://www.shawsavillships.co.uk/mccance1.htm

and a thread here: https://www.shipsnostalgia.com/showth...8150#post48150

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Old 18th July 2006, 19:03
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It is quite confusing in terms of names, as the original Joya McCance was an ore carrier built in 1960 (sister to Mabel Warwick) and she changed her name to St Margaret in 1966 and sold in 1971. Meanwhile Houlders bought a Norwegian built tanker whilst under construction and retained her named Beauval – she was built in 1964 and changed her name to Joya McCance in 1966 (when the name became available). She was sold in 1976 and broken up.

As a point of interest, she was actually a spur of the moment purchase, spotted by John Houlder for sale and matched to an amazing charter to Shell which paid a substantial bonus for anything above 15 knots – she regularly traded well in excess of this as she had a unique turn of speed. Her maiden voyage was taking Fresh Water from Amsterdam to Gibralter and loading had to be delayed as Monday was “wash day" in Amsterdam
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Old 18th July 2006, 20:00
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Joya McCance.

Ref: the "thistlebond" part of the Joya McCance thread, whilst I was on the Faraday it was consumed in great quantities due to the fact that the sea water pipework was thin wall and would crack due to any vibration. I wonder if the output from Ferguson and Timpson the manufacturers diminished with the reduction in the Merchant navy fleet. I know it was available up to five years ago.

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Old 19th July 2006, 07:30
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tonga,
think this is one you mention for a majority of the control panels below had scandanavian text.
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Old 19th July 2006, 09:50
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Beauval

Malachy,
Another oddity of the Beauval was her propeller – although age tend to reduce my memory for detail, I do remember it had an obscene number of blades - like about six! The overall result was that she used to steam up the English Channel overtaking the ferries from Spain.
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Old 15th November 2006, 14:54
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AJ has kindly added an image to the gallery:

https://www.shipsnostalgia.com/galler...hp?photo=40280
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Old 15th November 2006, 16:58
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Sailed on the Joya from 1969 to 1971, started as 5th and ended as 3rd engineer, enjoyed every trip, yes she was fast. I have photos of the control panel will have to check the language.
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Old 15th November 2006, 20:33
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Sailed on the Joya from 1969 to 1971, started as 5th and ended as 3rd engineer, enjoyed every trip, yes she was fast. I have photos of the control panel will have to check the language.
Hi Magnus.
I signed on "Joya McCance" Dec 67 in Hamburg paid off Birkenhead Jul 68. 3rd Eng. Stan Hughes, 4th Eng. John Kincaid(died on Royston Grange) Ch. Eng was Ellis Mason or Tony Hetherington, Captain was Jim Taylor. The ship got busted for drugs in Japan, about six of the crew got jailed. Oh what stories and what memories.
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Old 16th November 2006, 19:51
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Hi Leo

Tony Hethrington was chief for a couple of trips when I was on the Joya a great chief, Fred Capstik was extra second and I still hear from him at Xmas.As you say lots of stories and memories
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Old 16th November 2006, 20:02
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Beauval

I joined the "Beauval" after the Seamans Strike in1966 and did a 3 month trip.I've recently seen a picture of her as the "Joya McCance" dated about the same time. Can anyone put me right?
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Old 16th November 2006, 21:06
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Notnila, yes you are correct - it is the same one and I have merged the two threads as it is a common theme and you will find the information about her on this one.
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Old 17th November 2006, 12:47
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Hi Leo

Tony Hethrington was chief for a couple of trips when I was on the Joya a great chief, Fred Capstik was extra second and I still hear from him at Xmas.As you say lots of stories and memories
Hi Magnus.
Your right about Tony Hethrington, a superb guy. I think I sailed with Fred Capstick on the Hardwicke Grange in the 60's. Am I right in saying he was from Tyneside area? Mention my name(Leo Hannan) I was Captain's Tiger at the time. I last sailed with Tony on the Furness Bridge but haven't heard of him since.
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PS Although I might have sailed with Fred on the Joya McCance as 3rd Eng. Ronnie Marr was Junior 2nd. Eng at the time.

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Old 19th July 2007, 05:53
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Hello to you all , My Name is Steve Dandridge . I joined The Beauval In Christiansans South , Norway As a first Trip D H U , For Her Maiden Voyage . About a 6 Month Trip Ending in Cork If i Remember correctly , Good Days !1
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Steve, a warm welcome to you on your first posting. Looking at the port that you joined her, I suspect this was on her delivery into Houlders? She was a very fine ship and very speedy.
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Old 19th July 2007, 21:56
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Beauval

We were still eating Norweigen tinned herring in sundry sauces when I sailed in her!!!
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Old 19th July 2007, 22:39
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Arch,

That is very true... and endless tubes of Norwegian Shrimp Paste, that not only looked like toothpaste, but tasted a bit like it also.
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Old 19th July 2007, 22:44
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Hi Just found thread I was eng cadet jan74 to june74 stan jacobson was old man. and he paid for all our drinks on the flight home from Philly
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Hi Just found thread I was eng cadet jan74 to june74 stan jacobson was old man. and he paid for all our drinks on the flight home from Philly
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Yes Stuart, that would be just like him him - a very decent man.
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Old 7th December 2008, 12:36
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My first ship with Houlders, signed on Birkenhead Feb 69 and did two trips paying off in London Aug 69. Captains Dixon and Jackson in command. Trips down to Bonny Bonny W Africa and the rest of the time spent around the Carribean mainly. A good ship and the start of a 17 year career with Houlders.
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Old 7th December 2008, 17:42
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October 75 as last trip Cadet . Joined the 'Joya' in Melbourne after a two day flight (remember the KLM flights Houlders used to put us on - went all around the houses). Loaded FO for Long Beach then a ballast passage to Fateh Terminal and Ras Tanura to load crude for Dakar.Master was Dave Luff and C/O John Yeo. The Deck cadets amongst us who sailed with John will remember the weekly orals sessions when he would test us on Flags, Rules of the road, buoyage etc. Sailed with John a few years later on the CYS Mariner, when he was Master.Can't remember all the Engineers but Normaan Brook was 5/E, Big Malcolm Lidstone Green was the E/Cadet and I'm sure 'Shagger' Ford was the 3/E

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Beauval

Greetings! I was on the Beauval on its maiden voyage out of Kristiansand, sailed as 3/O. Had a good run ashore when in Gib with a cargo of fresh water from Amsterdam, pipeline was very small so we had a several days in port to discharge. Beauval was quite fast, we frequently did 18 knts I seem to recall. The crew quarters were good and I the bridge had twin radars.

Captain was W Brett but I can't remember the other deck officers names.

When in Gib we had a visit from a German Captain of ex E-Boat, involved in smuggling cigarettes to Italy. The E-Boat was stripped down, no weapons and only one engine but still very fast. Amazingly her Captain offered me a job, I even considered it for a few hours, talked to Captain Brett who advised me that I would be blacklisted in UK MN if I jumped ship but he wouldn't stop me. Then I thought about Italian prisons if we got caught and decided against it.

We had 2nd mate who left in Singapore to take up a job with MOD, running supply craft supporting army in Indonesian ops. he had a Russian revolver and manual I got translated just before he left. I left Beaval in Cork having been aboard from Oct 64 to May 65. Long enough as most trips were Gulf to Euroe with 24 hours turnaround, no fun!

Next ship was Oreton, a miserable sea ship which spent most of its time doing Sept Islands run to Manchester ship canal, we frequently never saw the sun right across the Atlantic. Last Captain was Cpt Leach, a very nice guy. sailed on that June 65 - Dec 65. Did some port time on Royston Grange and Hardwick Grange, then left sea approx March 66.

Switched to IT nerd ending up with IBM UK 3 years and IBM USA 30 years based in North Carolina. Still dream about ships!

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Old 10th March 2009, 16:03
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I had almost forgotten captain Brett who was on the Brandon or the Bidford at one time during the time I served on those vessels.

I seem to remember my good friend Alan Lowery (later C/E) sailing on the Beauval in her early days. Was he there at the same time as you Mike?

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