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Old 3rd February 2020, 11:57
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'Mad Mike' Hoare

Mike Hoare, the original for the Wild geese.
The old soldier has faded away at 100 years.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-51352075
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Old 3rd February 2020, 16:46
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Mike was a neighbor when we lived in Durban . He and my late father were good friends and kept in touch during his escapades after our family emigrated to Scotland . He was a very pleasant gentleman and will be missed by those who knew him . Derek
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Old 3rd February 2020, 17:32
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I suppose it was a matter of where you were stood. They say the good die young.
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Old 3rd February 2020, 21:20
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Escapades???
Perhaps Jolly Japes.
What oh, old chap, Mike was a bit of a Card.
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Old 4th February 2020, 16:44
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Didnt he carry the can for Mark (now Baron) Thatcher over the coup attempt?
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Old 4th February 2020, 16:51
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Didnt he carry the can for Mark (now Baron) Thatcher over the coup attempt?
That was Simon Mann.
Mike Hoare would have been 84 when that event nearly took place.
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Old 4th February 2020, 17:14
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That was Simon Mann.
Mike Hoare would have been 84 when that event nearly took place.
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Old 4th February 2020, 20:31
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He reached the rank of Major in the army, but by some magical process, became a Colonel once he was out of the army.
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Lt Colonel was his nominal rank while employed by the Congolese Army - I suppose he just got used to it and used it thereafter.
Rather like a man my father knew who styled himself Captain but apparently he was given the rank serving in the International Brigage in Spain.
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Old 4th February 2020, 23:19
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Lt Colonel was his nominal rank while employed by the Congolese Army - I suppose he just got used to it and used it thereafter.
Rather like a man my father knew who styled himself Captain but apparently he was given the rank serving in the International Brigage in Spain.
Mike was demobbed as Major after his contribution to the Burma campaign in The Royal Engineers . That was in WW2 .

His other exploits after a number of years in civvy street came with the Congo where he did an incredible job ; saving many lives and getting rid of the Cuban campaign led by che guevara ( Mike being the only man to put the run to him ; che didnt know Africa or love and understand the Africans or the land as Mike did )

He was a gentleman ; quiet ;reserved and discreet who did not like or want the threat of communism in Africa in any form and was strong enough to stand up and do something about it while the world watched things go bye.
The Congo would have been a slaugherhouse without his partisipation and Africa a communist state.
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I had him mixed up with Mad Mitch the hero of Aden.
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Now there was a man. A true hero.
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Old 5th February 2020, 08:24
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Mike was demobbed as Major after his contribution to the Burma campaign in The Royal Engineers . That was in WW2 .

His other exploits after a number of years in civvy street came with the Congo where he did an incredible job ; saving many lives and getting rid of the Cuban campaign led by che guevara ( Mike being the only man to put the run to him ; che didnt know Africa or love and understand the Africans or the land as Mike did )

He was a gentleman ; quiet ;reserved and discreet who did not like or want the threat of communism in Africa in any form and was strong enough to stand up and do something about it while the world watched things go bye.
The Congo would have been a slaugherhouse without his partisipation and Africa a communist state.
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Excellent - That is what an 'Obit' thread is supposed to be about.
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Many thanks for telling the story, I have always just thought Mercenary, bad. This makes him more 3 dimensional.
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Mike was demobbed as Major after his contribution to the Burma campaign in The Royal Engineers . That was in WW2 .

His other exploits after a number of years in civvy street came with the Congo where he did an incredible job ; saving many lives and getting rid of the Cuban campaign led by che guevara ( Mike being the only man to put the run to him ; che didnt know Africa or love and understand the Africans or the land as Mike did )

He was a gentleman ; quiet ;reserved and discreet who did not like or want the threat of communism in Africa in any form and was strong enough to stand up and do something about it while the world watched things go bye.
The Congo would have been a slaugherhouse without his partisipation and Africa a communist state.
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I was told a story that during the Congo Uprising one of his men raped and murdered a Congolese woman by drowning her in a river. Mike decided to punish him, the man was an accomplished piano musician so Mike shot him through his hand. Poetic justice to my mind.

Thank you for the kind words, as you you so rightly said a 'gentleman' in every sense of the word.

Stay safe, stay healthy.
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I was told a story that during the Congo Uprising one of his men raped and murdered a Congolese woman by drowning her in a river. Mike decided to punish him, the man was an accomplished piano musician so Mike shot him through his hand. Poetic justice to my mind.

Thank you for the kind words, as you you so rightly said a 'gentleman' in every sense of the word.

Stay safe, stay healthy.
One of Mikes men did rape a Congolese woman ; the man loved to play football . Mikes punishment was to personaly shoot off the mans two big toes .
Ironically the man was killed in an air crash some weeks later ; that was justice.
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Old 22nd May 2020, 15:38
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The usual disparaging comments were beginning to bubble out of the swamp on this thread. Thank you Derek Roger for putting the record straight and silencing the Munchkins.
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I always thought he was a gun for hire on the Blood River and all the time he was the Pope, Mother Theresa, Dali Lama and the Archbishop of Canterbury's Assistant for Anglican Communion Affairs. Oh, and apparently Judge Judy; what a man.
How in Gods name did the army let him go and keep such duds as BLM?
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Lt Colonel was his nominal rank while employed by the Congolese Army - I suppose he just got used to it and used it thereafter.
Rather like a man my father knew who styled himself Captain but apparently he was given the rank serving in the International Brigage in Spain.
Do we value a rank conferred by the established hierarchy more than one earned in action and conferred by those on the spot?
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I always thought he was a gun for hire on the Blood River and all the time he was the Pope, Mother Theresa, Dali Lama and the Archbishop of Canterbury's Assistant for Anglican Communion Affairs. Oh, and apparently Judge Judy; what a man.
How in Gods name did the army let him go and keep such duds as BLM?
All soldiers are either hired or conscripted. You may accept or condemn.
By the way, you missed out the Moderator of the General Assembly of the Wee Free Kirk of Scotland. (As do many graffitists).
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Old 23rd May 2020, 08:40
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Do we value a rank conferred by the established hierarchy more than one earned in action and conferred by those on the spot?
Some are born great, some achieve greatness, others have greatness thrust upon them.
It matters not how one gets there but how one deals with it. In the case of Mike Hoare, very well by all accounts.

To my mind he could call himself whatever he liked to indicate his status. By using a military rank he himself became part of the hierarchy.
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Old 23rd May 2020, 09:13
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By the way, you missed out the Moderator of the General Assembly of the Wee Free Kirk of Scotland. (As do many graffitists).
Ah yes, the Moderator or as he is known in many parts of Belfast FTQ.
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Do we value a rank conferred by the established hierarchy more than one earned in action and conferred by those on the spot?
Are you questioning the right of a sovereign state to legitimately raise an army, commission officers and wage just war against an enemy?

An officer is commissioned by the Head of State; Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and of Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith, Lord High Admiral, commissions officers. Promotions are carried out in her name.
A promotion in the field by a bunch of desperados and drunken rabble, not adhering to the Geneva Conventions, can hardly be considered as an equivalent.
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