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Old 18th December 2008, 09:07
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Colin
Just received a Christmas card from ED & Mrs Macgregor - still living in Milngavie near Glasgow - sailed with him on the Naess Endeavour and Dunadd.
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Just received a Christmas card from ED & Mrs Macgregor - still living in Milngavie near Glasgow - sailed with him on the Naess Endeavour and Dunadd.
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Hi Angus!

Saw your post about Capt. McGregor. I sailed with him as apprentice on (I think) the 'Dunadd' when she was new from out from Lithgows. I still have a pic he took of me outside the radio room.

That was (again I think) th maiden voyage when the spare prop. broke loose in the dry cargo hold, all the light fittings fell out of the deck head and we damaged the bow plating and had to go into St. Johns Newfoundland for repairs. Nearly didn't make it - force 11, fog and icebergs all at the same time.
If you are talking to him - please give him my regards.

Incidentally: do you know Ian Plater in the Clyde Coast Guard? he was moved from Tarbert to Greenock and I lost touch just over two years ago.

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Old 20th December 2008, 11:02
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Hi Harry, Other Globtick ship was the SUN known as the fun for obvious reasons. I remember Roy Bloomer and Eugene Morgan from Belfast college 1965 intake. We al met at Springburn tech.

I was interested in rail travel, still am, and would always prefer to go home by ferry and train whenever the company allowed,

Really enjoying this website
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Old 20th December 2008, 11:11
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Hi Rehead,

Those Bailey boards were something else and we all got very good playing them.
Dirty control air was the problem. Remember the brilliantly sited compressor between the boilers. Remember the wee fella from Wier valves, Jimmy I think, and another chap from Sheffield fixing the other controls. Save us for a few short weeks flame out was the cry. Busiest bars in the compay by a long way I believe.
I was third doing steam time and once became the diesel engineer when the TA rotor failed on Clansman, taken aside by the Chief to tell me I was a VIP!
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Hi Gulpers

As a new lad on the site I am still finding my way around and your mention of the Denholm line bring back memories of sailing on the MV Arisaig. and the TV. Morar back in 1960. From South Wales to North Africa. I can still hear the scream of the turbine on the Morar, and I well remember the heat.
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A warm welcome to the site, and particularly the J & J Denholm forum, from the Isle of Anglesey!
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Thanks for the welcome, still finding my way around SN. at the moment but look forward to hearing more about the TV Morar and the M V Ariaig
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Yes there were two, the Globtic Mercury and I can't remember the other one at the minute. G.Mercury ran from Lake Maricaibo Venezuela to Portland Maine on a Texaco charter and after we half wrecked the Gotaverken engine we limped back to Amsterdam for drydock and to give her back to the Norwegians, spent 11 happy months on her as 4th, all for a purpose to get my sea time in for my 2nd's ticket. Grey matter is working, other one was Globtic Saturn and I think she was even worse than Mercury, and my fellow N.Ireland apprentice from a few years earlier, Roy Bloomer, spent some time on her and I think he had an absolute nightmare. If I'm right J&J took them on as they were a carrot to get the management for the two biggies that Ravi Tikko was building the G.Toyko & G.London but who knows
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Just received a Christmas card from ED & Mrs Macgregor - still living in Milngavie near Glasgow - sailed with him on the Naess Endeavour and Dunadd.
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Angus many thanks for letting me know that both Capt ED and Mrs MacG are still in Milngavie. I'll be up in Glasgow in January to see my eldest daughter,Lucy so will try to see them then.
Really appreciate your help and warm regards and best wishes for 2009

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Ian Plater is now based at the Coastguard Training Centre at Highcliffe (Dorset). I believe his title is 'Learning & Development Consultant'
Best wishes for the New Year to all at SN and especially to all those who keep the J & J thread ticking over!
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Hi Angus!

Saw your post about Capt. McGregor. I sailed with him as apprentice on (I think) the 'Dunadd' when she was new from out from Lithgows. I still have a pic he took of me outside the radio room.

That was (again I think) th maiden voyage when the spare prop. broke loose in the dry cargo hold, all the light fittings fell out of the deck head and we damaged the bow plating and had to go into St. Johns Newfoundland for repairs. Nearly didn't make it - force 11, fog and icebergs all at the same time.
If you are talking to him - please give him my regards.

Incidentally: do you know Ian Plater in the Clyde Coast Guard? he was moved from Tarbert to Greenock and I lost touch just over two years ago.

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Old 10th January 2009, 22:10
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i am from greenock and sailed with denholms as did my father.was on the wellpark when picked up refugees
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Are you Calum MacMillans's son? Sailed with Calum 3 times - Industria, Scotstoun and Malta Cross.
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Old 12th January 2009, 13:00
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Naess Endeavour

Naess Endeavour towed from Genoa to Palermo for drydock due to rudder nearly dropping off. In my 10 months on the Endeavour, this was, as far as i can recall, the only time she ever booke down!
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Old 29th January 2009, 20:14
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Atlantic Denholm(Ex.Atlantic Rolgo.Norwegian) I joined the Atlantic Denholm 17.04.84 04.10.85 she was taken out of Denholm Mgt and a new company was formed Loch Offshore and she was renamed ."Loch Carron" 10 10 89 company changed again to Farstad UK Ltd and all the vessels were named Far......... 11.09.89 I served on the Loch Grimshader with Farstad UK. My last vessel was Far Sleipner as I retired 28.11.92 The last master I sailed with was Captain John Leisk and strange as it may seem my very first Captains signature is also John Leisk both men Shetlanders, but on enquiring they were not related.

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Old 29th January 2009, 20:34
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Hi Charlie
i served continuously on the grimshader and the sleipner from 10/88 to 5/91

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Old 30th January 2009, 02:20
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Hi Charlie,

Nice to hear of you. I wrote a bit under the John Canon thread about you, all good stuff of course. Louisiana menu and pipes through Birkenhead dock estate all night on an ore carriers focsle. Happy days,

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Old 30th January 2009, 12:31
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Captain A J MacDonald

I know various people have contacted me about AJ and many more on this thread must know him. Well I'm glad to say i saw him recently at a dinner and was in good form and was interested to hear he is still remembered by many in Denholms.
Anyone interested in contacting him, if you email me I will send you his grandson's email address.
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Old 4th March 2009, 20:41
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Do any of you remember an incident in 1971 involving, I think it was, the "Naess Champion" off Albany, Western Australia?

She was a large (for those days, anyway) crude tanker with a midships bridge, I think she was bound from Geelong, Victoria to probably the Gulf but we came across her completely broken down and dead in the water just south of Albany in a typical SW'ly gale just after daylight in the 4-8 watch one morning. I was C/O of the 5976 grt Australian coastal containership "Kooringa" (Melbourne bound for Fremantle) at the time and recall thinking not all looked well with this big tanker, sitting high in the water and obviously drifting. I can remember calling on VHF and getting no response, even using the aldis lamp with no response and it wasn't until our R/O came on watch at 0800 that he got a very weak signal from the tanker requesting assistance.

To cut a long story short, we went back to her and expended eight rockets trying to get a line aboard her (I remember that we got as far as having a polyprop between us at one stage, I don't recall she made any attempt to get a line to us?) but in the end we stood by her until her Master decided he was out of immediate danger. Even if we'd managed to get a line aboard, I doubt we'd have been able to tow her - didn't ever get exact details of what happened to her in the end, but I believe a tug went out from Albany initially and eventually the Fremantle salvage tug took her in tow and she went to Singapore for repairs?

Can anyone confirm?

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hi Mike
Bet you never thought you would ever get a reply to your post Nov/05 !
I've just recently signed up to this site so apologies for the 3 year delay.

The weak signal your R/O heard was me on the monkey island using the lifeboat radio. (Our radioroom batteries had long since expired altho I did manage to raise Esperance Radio ESP before they packed in). We were completely blacked out & not for the first time that trip. We were high in the water as we had just discharged our cargo & not yet gas free. So when rocket after rocket fizzed across our deck it was squeaky bum time. There was 1 line secured but snapped shortly after. That was when the old man decided not to continue. We were extremely grateful for the assistance at a very vulnerable & hazardous time for us.

When we dropped the hook & appraised the situation our comms consisted of the lifeboat radio & the cadets transistor radio which he brought to the bridge. The engineers were labouring away trying to get life back into the ship without success. For the next few days Albany radio had us as the headline news until a whale washed up on the beach & stole our glory.
A tug did indeed come out to us from Albany along with a battery powered transceiver supplied by a guy called Harry who was a radio ham and had a TV shop in Albany. So comms between the ship & Glasgow were restored as we would call Harry up & he would phone Denholms and hold the phone to the speaker. Crude but effective.

Albany radio announced on air they would have a request programme for us and asked us to call Harry with a list of names & songs. I remember mine was The Clancy Brothers & Maries wedding. This probably sounds trivial considering the situation but it really lifted everyone's morale. Another bonding exercise was the meals on the bottom plates of the ER when we feasted on coffee & beans heated by Acetylene torches. The Asian crew were catered for, when the tug arrived with cages of live chickens which were swiftly taken away & processed. (we didn't ask how).

After about a week a super from Glasgow arrived on the tug (what a journey he must have had) disappeared down the ER & a few hours later lights flickered on to wild applause (because we all knew what this meant, yes COLD TENNANTS!!!).
We were not towed to Singapore as you (Mike) suggested but managed to limp our way quite slowly under our own steam to a well needed drydock.

We all paid off then but for the life of me I can't remember who else sailed on the ship at this time, O/M JJ Rose? Cat/off Harry Moon? I hope someone somewhere can put me out of my misery.

I often wonder if Denholms ever follow up with their appreciation of people like Mike & Harry who literally came to the rescue. I'm sure they did.

Yet another long winded post but it was hard to know what to leave out.

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Old 5th March 2009, 04:28
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Bet you never thought you would ever get a reply to your post Nov/05 !
I've just recently signed up to this site so apologies for the 3 year delay.

The weak signal your R/O heard was me on the monkey island using the lifeboat radio. (Our radioroom batteries had long since expired altho I did manage to raise Esperance Radio ESP before they packed in). We were completely blacked out & not for the first time that trip. We were high in the water as we had just discharged our cargo & not yet gas free. So when rocket after rocket fizzed across our deck it was squeaky bum time. There was 1 line secured but snapped shortly after. That was when the old man decided not to continue. We were extremely grateful for the assistance at a very vulnerable & hazardous time for us.

When we dropped the hook & appraised the situation our comms consisted of the lifeboat radio & the cadets transistor radio which he brought to the bridge. The engineers were labouring away trying to get life back into the ship without success. For the next few days Albany radio had us as the headline news until a whale washed up on the beach & stole our glory.
A tug did indeed come out to us from Albany along with a battery powered transceiver supplied by a guy called Harry who was a radio ham and had a TV shop in Albany. So comms between the ship & Glasgow were restored as we would call Harry up & he would phone Denholms and hold the phone to the speaker. Crude but effective.

Albany radio announced on air they would have a request programme for us and asked us to call Harry with a list of names & songs. I remember mine was The Clancy Brothers & Maries wedding. This probably sounds trivial considering the situation but it really lifted everyone's morale. Another bonding exercise was the meals on the bottom plates of the ER when we feasted on coffee & beans heated by Acetylene torches. The Asian crew were catered for, when the tug arrived with cages of live chickens which were swiftly taken away & processed. (we didn't ask how).

After about a week a super from Glasgow arrived on the tug (what a journey he must have had) disappeared down the ER & a few hours later lights flickered on to wild applause (because we all knew what this meant, yes COLD TENNANTS!!!).
We were not towed to Singapore as you (Mike) suggested but managed to limp our way quite slowly under our own steam to a well needed drydock.

We all paid off then but for the life of me I can't remember who else sailed on the ship at this time, O/M JJ Rose? Cat/off Harry Moon? I hope someone somewhere can put me out of my misery.

I often wonder if Denholms ever follow up with their appreciation of people like Mike & Harry who literally came to the rescue. I'm sure they did.

Yet another long winded post but it was hard to know what to leave out.

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ronmac
ronmac -

Many thanks for your response - I have Gulpers to thank for putting me wise to your posting!! What a fascinating read your story is and to have first-hand knowledge of your side of the incident is priceless! I do remember that we stayed with you for a while until you got into an "anchorable" depth of water - so far as line-throwing equipment is concerned, I'm sure we didn't do anything with rockets until we'd cleared it with you ..... by whatever means of communication we had!!

I think our company's (ASP Melbourne) Assistant Fleet Manager at the time was aware of what was being done and as he was an ex-Ship Manager with Denholms (he'd come to ASP in 1964 on its creation), I'm sure he'd have been in touch with old colleagues!
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Old 16th March 2009, 00:05
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Malcolm,

Bob was on the Cast ships for a number of years -- Cotter of the Otter as we used
to call him. Last I heard of him was that he was on Spanish ferries running across
the straits of Gib. Cathie died quite a number of years ago.

Donald Balloch well and kicking. Last saw him in Tesco's in Greenock about 3 years
ago. He was at the checkout with Sadie and I crept up behind him and said in his
ear " Wanna buy a cheap Sulzer ". You can imagine with his typical guffaws , brought
the place to a standstill.

Was on the Baknes early 1972 with wee Jock McVicar (who also sadly lost his wife
about 18 months ago). Can't remember who else was there but it was an exciting
7 months.
mv Baknes, "Exciting"? Like sitting alongside the dock in Oz, main engines thundering away, screw in neutral pitch to power the shaft alternators to get the hatches open because the gennies wer all gubbed once more, wharfies not going to come up the gangway "Not bluddy safe!" Or the crew sweeping previous cargo residue out of the holds and sweeping the Clyde built welding runs out as well, oh aye, "Clyde built is best." And previous message, Mr Shaw, page 8 .... Burmah Garnet and Naess Viking, you are right, no mention of them so far, and that's no bad thing. Who needs nightmares?
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Old 16th March 2009, 01:11
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I sailed as R/O on the Hopepark Feb-May71, Conon Forest Jun71-Feb72, Gina Maria Jul72-Jan73 and Mountpark Mar73-Sep73, I left Marconi to go direct
employ with SSM but only lasted two trips, fell out and joined BP, must have
been mad. Apart from Hopepark which was an ex Esso tanker bought on the stocks for some New York outfit I enjoyed all my trips, good ships and crews
especially the Gina Maria, US east coast to Central America/Mexico with
general. Some ships I remember Federal Hudson, Fidentia, Dealbrook, Sig Ragne, Haverton, Axel Hieberg, Fort St catherine, another Fort something, will probably find somemore

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Hi Brian, I remember you well and hope you prosper. I was 2nd mate then. D'you remember the day right on 1200, 3rd mate and me sorting out the noon position when an AB jumped through the chart room door shouting "We're on fire!" The expression on his face should have been enough but being a born again fool I asked are you sure?" I hit the fire alarm - right on mid-day mind. It rang and rang. Finally the master, Ron Watson, phoned the bridge in a temper "Why is the fire alarm still ringing!!?" (thinking it was just the 'set your watches chaps' gone wrong) "Because we are on f-g fire!" It was just a wee fire in the top pof the funnel though, no big deal for that ship. Happy days right enough. I don't think I or my generation could survive at sea nowadays. When I recollect all the 6 on 6 off watches tank cleaning etc, the mate on the go-on-stay-on, etc etc and the repetitive engine break downs, black-outs ....... when would all this paperwork get done?
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more ships denholms

merarzio grecia ro/ro tor calidonia ro/ro cast otter/husky con bulk rollnes/rocknes bulkers (coasters) act 8 ( container) oxford container city of manchester containercity of plymouth container liverpool star container auther container
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There must be SN members who have fond (or not so fond) memories of their times sailing under the "Diamond D."** Let's hear them!From memory, the following is a list of Denholm owned and managed ships from the late 60s to early 80s.* There are probably mistakes, but it's a start.* I know that there were 90 to 100 ships in the company at that time and I would love to hear of any additions to the list. I've named 85 ships and those I sailed on are highlighted in blue.Additions to the original post are shown in red:Al Dhrafrah (Tanker),** Andros (Geared Container),** Anglia Team (OBO),* Arctic Troll (Bulk Carrier/Car Carrier),** [B]Arisaig(Container),** [/I] Athol Forest (Geared Bulk Carrier),** Avon Bridge (OBO),** Bibi (General Cargo),** Braveness (Bulk Carrier),** Broompark (Bulk Carrier),** Burmah Agate (Tanker),** Burmah Endeavour (Tanker),** Burmah Enterprise (Tanker),** Burmah Gem (Tanker),** Burmah Opal (Tanker),** Burmah Pearl (Tanker),** Burmah Peridot (Tanker),** Carronpark (Bulk Carrier),** Cast Fulmar (OBO),** Cast Narwhal (OBO),** Cast Puffin (OBO),** Cast Tern (OBO),** Chelsea Bridge (Bulk Carrier),** Chemical Explorer (Tanker),** Chemical Venturer (Tanker),** Clarkavon (Bulk Carrier),* * Clunepark (Bulk Carrier),** Coastal Corpus Christi (Tanker),** Coastal Hercules (Tanker),** Conon Forest (Geared Bulk Carrier converted to Geared Container),** Craigallian (Bulk Carrier),** Crinan (Bulk Carrier),** Dunadd (Bulk Carrier),* Dunelmia (General Cargo),** Duncraig (Bulk Carrier),** Dunkyle (Bulk Carrier), * Eden Bridge (OBO),* Erskine Bridge (Bulk Carrier),** Eurofreighter (Container),** Euroliner (Container),** Gallic Bridge (Bulk Carrier),** Gastor (Gas Carrier),** Gina Maria (General Cargo),** Holness (Bulk Carrier),** Industria (General Cargo),** Letitia (General Cargo), ** Loch Lomond (Reefer),** Loch Long (Reefer),** Loch Maree (Reefer),** Morar (Bulk Carrier),** Mountpark (Bulk Carrier),** Muirfield (OBO),** Nestor (Gas Carrier),** Nordic Ambassador (Tanker),** Nordic Clansman (Tanker),** Nordic Commander (Tanker),** Nordic Crusader (OBO),** Nordic Louisiana (Sulphur Carrier),** Nordic Texas (Sulphur Carrier),** Norvegia Team (OBO),** Scandia Team (OBO),** Scotspark (Bulk Carrier),** Seatrain Bennington (Container),** Seatrain Saratoga [I](Container),** Sevonia Team (OBO),** Silver Bridge (OBO),** Sir Alexander Glen (OBO),** * Sir Andrew Duncan (Bulk Carrier/Cadet Training Ship),** Sir John Hunter (OBO),** Spey Bridge (OBO),** Stirling Bridge (Bulk Carrier),** Stonehaven (Tanker),** Stromness (Bulk Carrier),** Suecia Team (OBO),** Sugar Trader (Bulk Carrier),** Sugar Transporter (Bulk Carrier), * Tor Anglia(RORO),** Tor Hollandia (RORO),** Troll Lake (Bulk Carrier/Car Carrier),** Troll Park (Bulk Carrier/Car Carrier), ** Troll River (Bulk Carrier/Car Carrier),** Vancouver Forest (Geared Bulk Carrier converted to Geared Container),** Wellpark (Geared Container/Cadet Training Ship)

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Old 18th March 2009, 18:25
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Hi Charlie.Long time no see.We sailed together in Sir Andrew Duncan. Nordic Loisiana.And we were back to back on the Atlantic Denholm.I am still at it in the North Sea but not for much longer I hope.Reg Alex Clark.
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I am new to this forum
Some more of Denholms ships
Sig Ragne
Bibi
Scotstoun
Bern
Al Dhafrah


But there's one missing. To say I sailed on her is not accurate, in a four month trip we weighed anchor and moved two miles to get a better TV Picture off Khor Fakkan. The fishing was especially good during this trip.

I ran the bar on this ship and figured if I could run a pub ashore with the income like that I could make a living out of it. I am sorry to re awaken a nightmare but does anyone remember .................................................. .................................................. ........
DALMA

Out of all the engineers who sailed with Denholms how many remember this one
Oh yes I remember the Dalma, Captain Rodney Megran (The Megraine), did not like booze in any form, only came out of his room to visit the bridge or his weekly jaunt on the Sunday inspection.
We were on the Gulf - Ulsan run, with a slow steam past Singapore to pick up mail and stores. Then a six week dry dock in Singapore, that was agood one!
Can anybody remember the ship running out of beer, we used the old collection of cheap wine which was lying untouched from the builders yard.
When Rodney asked me how the officers were coping with no beer, I explained that we liked the wine, but did'nt tell him by the Bucket full! we used to mix a selection of wine into a bucket and drink it, infact we drank all the wine even the cheapest vinegar tasting.
Forget the year but I joine in RKS and left six and half months later in RAK

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