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Old 15th November 2008, 09:49
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UK call signs "G---" or "M----"

I sailed on the MV Ixion (3) Blue Funnel and her call sign started with a "M" the full sign was "MLLR".

Just wondering if any one can put a light on when the UK used an "M" in a callsign? I can not find another "M".

She is Liverpool and UK flag. built 1951 tons gross 10,12514,000 HP speed 18kts Steam.
Sorry do not know her IMO number yet.

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Old 15th November 2008, 10:29
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Ixion. H class ( Hector Helenus, Ixion, Jason) built for UK/Australia.
Built1951 scrapped 1972
enhines geared turbines 14,000 shp.
speed 18.5 knots. 2 oil fired foster wheeler boilers.
Best ships in fleet in their time. I did several on Jason, super accommodation, radio room, Oceanspan Mk1. Mercury Electra. Redifon emergency tx. Type M auto alarm. Loadstone DF.
Sailed to a very tight schedule ( despite aussie dockers).
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Old 15th November 2008, 10:36
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The H class at their time had the Greatest Shaft Horsepower of any single screw vessel. cant think of Jason call sign.
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Old 15th November 2008, 10:37
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Can anyone please assist with call sign of ss KENTWOOD ex Empire Hearth
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Old 15th November 2008, 10:46
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Three score and ten RAM revivers:-
Jason GBMW
Helenus GBTM
Ixion MLLB
Hector GBNK
Thank you. GBMW great call sign for area traffic, way in front of the poncey ships
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[QUOTE=Paul Baxter;264866]I sailed on the MV Ixion (3) Blue Funnel and her call sign started with a "M" the full sign was "MLLR".

Just wondering if any one can put a light on when the UK used an "M" in a callsign? I can not find another "M".


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I sailed on Shell's HAUSTELLUM/MSNJ in 1961/62 & AMASTRA/MYCK in 1966/67 & to the best of my fading memory HEMIFUSIS was MSDF & there were one or two other Joe Shells with 'M' callsigns.

In 1965 I worked aboard the rigs NORTH STAR/MIUJ [based in Gt.Yarmouth] & ENDEAVOUR/MITD [based in British West Hartlepool].

So it looked as though the classic 'M' 4-letter callsigns were being issued in the 50s & 60s.
I have seen more recent 'M' callsigns followed by a sequence of numbers.

Somewhere else on the thread there is a comment that the letter 'E' was rarely used in callsigns - I was told that this was 'cos it would be very easy to miss the character in poor conditions.
Nonetheless it was often used in both coast station & ship's callsigns - I sailed on ASPRELLA/GCKE, NATICINA/GXFE, ANCO SCEPTRE/GOQE, SOLITAIRE OF THE ISLES/GWEM & PASS OF BALMAHA/GUEX.

What was much more important for British 'G' callsign ships in Area Scheme days was the SECOND letter of your c/s as someone else has pointed out - this determined how long you had to wait before your tfc was broadcast.
With 'Queens' & their GB - - callsigns there were obviously vested interests at work during their callsign allocations !

Wasn't the prefix '2' [or maybe '2A' ?] also allocated as a British callsign ? I don't recall any ships with this c/s, but Shell's private station on Das Island was 2AI15


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The Port Townsville was MGCV but the only "M" I sailed with.

It seemed to me that an awful lot of trawlers had "M" callsigns in the 60s and 70s.

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Old 15th November 2008, 11:45
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G and M call sign

Sailed on Orcades MABA ,long wait for area traffic and fairly busy radio office, not good. Also River Afton MQXX ,even longer wait but not much traffic anyway. Never did get on a G call sign. Left too soon. Ah well......
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The H class at their time had the Greatest Shaft Horsepower of any single screw vessel. cant think of Jason call sign.
I would check that statement!
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Old 15th November 2008, 11:50
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Can anyone please assist with call sign of ss KENTWOOD ex Empire Hearth
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Hello Ivor,

During WWII British ships were allocated the letters B, G and M for their radio callsigns. KENTWOOD official number 168797 ex EMPIRE HEARTH was callsign BDRW.

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Old 15th November 2008, 11:52
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I would check that statement!
I am quoteing from Merchant Fleets 6 by Duncan Haws.
I think the Helenus was the only ship in Holts that had a female name
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Wrong again. Helenus was the son of King Priam, sorry folks.
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Wasn't the prefix '2' [or maybe '2A' ?] also allocated as a British callsign ? I don't recall any ships with this c/s, but Shell's private station on Das Island was 2AI15

2 callsigns normally issued to RT only ships & started in 1970's I think - lots of inshore fishing vessels and yachts have such callsigns. Only WT fitted vessel I know of was Norina/2JUV which was smallish deepsea trawler.

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Correct me if I'm wrong but is "G" not the prefix for british registered aircraft
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Correct but I think you will find a/c callsigns are five letter as in G-ABCD.
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Thanks Hugh, at least I was close
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Hugh :
Many thanks for that.
Of all the ships I sailed on Kentwood was the only one whose Call sign I couldnt remember
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I understand there was only one M naval station in the old days and that was Rosyth.
How far you going back R651400?

When I served 70/80's
Faslane MGJ
Plymouth MTI
Pitreavie MTO
Portsmouth can't quite remember, maybe MTN

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Ivor Lloyd's "B" allocation came as a surprise and goes back a stretch..

http://earlyradiohistory.us/1913call.htm
Admiralty radio stations used to have B callsigns - Portpatrick/GPK having originally been BYS and Wick/GKR originally BYG
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I am quoteing from Merchant Fleets 6 by Duncan Haws.
I think the Helenus was the only ship in Holts that had a female name
John,

I am merely suggesting you check as I was under the impression that the 'P' class had the edge on the 'H'.
I have no doubt there are members on the site who will put us right.
Incidentially, I never sailed deep sea in any of the Aussie boats. Went around the land in a few.

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MTB102 built 1937 is MFRQ which I understand was allocated in 1937
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MLLB?
Yes my error with big fingers "MLLB" is correct.

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John,

I am merely suggesting you check as I was under the impression that the 'P' class had the edge on the 'H'.
I have no doubt there are members on the site who will put us right.
Incidentially, I never sailed deep sea in any of the Aussie boats. Went around the land in a few.

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Strange that, in the book it shows Peleus with a shaft HP of 15000, yet makes the statement about the Helenus . maybe the Helenus was launched a day before the Peleus. Still both class were super ships to sail on, never went deep sea on a P but enjoyed my time on Jason (Tegwyn Davies was the lst R/O)
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Smile M call signs

I think M was allocated quite some time ago, I sailed on Brocklebank's Marwarri and she was built in 1935 with the call sign MBVY. The Titanic had the call MGY but I think this related to the fact she was a Marconi equipment ship. Cape Race station was MCE and this presumably in the early days for wireless was also using Marconi apparatus. A 1927 Lloyds Calendar shows Maliin Head as GMH, and has the call GRL as allocated to Fishguard.
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I sailed on the SS Alpera with the callsign GBBB, very good if there was traffic in the list and if I missed the list (I was only just 18 years old at the time) I didn't have to listen for long after the list to see if there was anything for us.
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