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Old 7th March 2013, 16:35
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Bank Line post war casualties

Thought it might be an idea to list all the known losses and near misses etc of Bank Line ships since 1945. My morbid fascination with ship wrecks, I guess... I hope members and Bank line shipmates can help fill in the blanks..

My recollections:-

Kelvinbank - wrecked Ocean Island. after grounding and salvage attempts.
Westbank - grounded Juan De Nova, and recovered to live another day.
Southbank - wrecked Christmas island - line islands
Beaverbank - grounded Fanning Island , but recovered by U.S. navy from Hawaii.
Trentbank - collided and sank Mediterranean. ( Video on line)
Lindenbank - grounded and lost W Coast S. America
Forresbank - burned out and wrecked S Africa, near Port Elizabeth.
Moraybank? - grounding Straits of Magellen and recovered


I know there was another loss in the Pacific islands after a lot of effort at salvage ( name escapes me) and several groundings where salvage was successful, plus the infamous bridge collision (Forthbank). Would love to see a comprehensive list of all the near misses! Can anyone add to the above list please?

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Old 7th March 2013, 22:38
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A comprehensive list indeed Alan,I wonder if this counts as an near miss,Ettrickbank,I was second mate on her from 15/12/59 to 19/12/61 on the lovely far east run.
Sometime probably about 12 months in we were east bound just approachig the Malacca straits when we had a smoke warning from no 1 hold.
Well to cut a long story short we blasted Co2 in and sealed off the vents and increased speed by half a knot and rushed to singapore where we were directed to the explosives anchorage where we were boarded by the port fire brigade.
We spent 5 weeks using some weird and wonderful fire fighting methods before the fire was finally out,There was definitely one fatality among the fire fighters.The P&Iclub/insurers insisted that all the discharged cargo be put into barges,but in the end it was deemed unfit and was dumped.
We did consider it a near miss and had to go into drydock in Japan out of turn to repair fire damage in no 1.

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Old 8th March 2013, 01:20
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A tad off topic but still with Bankline.I just read an obit about an old Captain I sailed with, a Captain Collier, in his write up it stated he had served his time with Andrew Weirs starting in 1933, his first ship being the Congella which he served on for two years, and then he was on the India, South africa trade fo a further two years, thense home to sit his tickets. Congella? was that a Bankliner?
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1986 serious Copra fire on Meadowbank homeward bound - CO2 flooding didn't really work as the tubular nature of the copra fibres allowed the fire to exist inside the fibres where the CO2 couldn't get. Eventually got under control in Rotterdam by flooding the hatch with seawater.
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Old 9th March 2013, 05:52
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Believe the Tweedbank/GBYC was declared a total loss after running aground on fire off Japan around 1957, that was after I left her so cant confirm the dates
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Old 9th March 2013, 08:37
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Believe the Tweedbank/GBYC was declared a total loss after running aground on fire off Japan around 1957, that was after I left her so cant confirm the dates
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Thanks Ern,

Never heard of that one, at least in the 50;s - do you have any details?

Am I right in thinking the Lindenbank was also a casualty?

Really need a database, but it's one of the things that drives me nuts, so would have to rely on someone more skillful in this department Any takers?
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Old 9th March 2013, 17:29
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t.s.m.v.'Congella"

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A tad off topic but still with Bankline.I just read an obit about an old Captain I sailed with, a Captain Collier, in his write up it stated he had served his time with Andrew Weirs starting in 1933, his first ship being the Congella which he served on for two years, and then he was on the India, South africa trade fo a further two years, thense home to sit his tickets. Congella? was that a Bankliner?
"Congella" was indeed a Bank Boat having been acquired in 1933 as a much-sold original WWI war prize ex Hamburg America Line vessel, German-built in 1914 twin-screw motorship. With an oil engines replacement in 1927 she was nevertheless a very early motorship which was one of Lord Inverforth's enthusiasms at the time.

Another Bank Line enthusiasm at the time was the Indian-African Line with the buying of Bullard King's India-Natal service and the introduction of Bank Line's "White Ships".

It was intended to offer a two-string monthly service with the White Ships providing the main service with a second string service utilizing the "Gujarat" Class and some other bought-in ships captive to the service like "Congella", "Cabarita" and (perhaps "Kelvinbank")
to take care of additional calls in Portugal and British East African ports, Madagascar, and South African ports down to the Cape.

"Congella" was sunk by the Japanese off the Maldives in 1943.
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Thanks for that info Alistair,didn't realize Bank line was so deversified way back thenCheers Hamish
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Old 9th March 2013, 21:39
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And here she is..... The Congella.....Looks like a typical Bank Boat to me....
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Old 9th March 2013, 21:57
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t.s.m.v."Congella"

The derrick spans suspended from very high mast platforms betray the German origin.
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Bet they made a few quid with that ship though.The bridge wing looks like a railway carriage!
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Old 9th March 2013, 23:32
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The derrick spans suspended from very high mast platforms betray the German origin.
Very well spotted Alistair,I was just about to jump in and say" just like the Clydebank" on which I was senior for 2 years with Capt.Holland and Wilkie as mate`.

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Southbank loss

Found all the press cuttings re the Southbank when she stranded on Washington Island Dec 1964. I have ' digitised' all the yellowing pages, and there are a few photos ( the most dramatic one here) plus lots of press reports.
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Picture of Ch Engineer of the Southbank, plus a report about the tragic death. One cutting says the lifeboat was smashed against the side, and another says it overturned in the heavy surf, so unclear what really happened. Anyone reading this post who was on board?
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Here is a memorable press photo of the burial ashore on Washington Island, Line Islands, of the second Mate of the Southbank, with the wrecked ship in the background.

He was William Mackintosh from Balintore in Ross-shire.

A lifebelt from the ship was placed at the grave, and 3 shipmates participated. Anyone out there who was present at this tragic time, Xmas 64/65?
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Hi Guys,
Was it the Laganbank that was lost off Peru, Matarani (Spelling?) I think about 1973, but confirmation would be good. Was there in 1974, but don't recall seeing any parts of the wreck, but then I don't recall much these days, even when I try and reference events against my journals, it's as if it all never happened!
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Old 10th April 2013, 12:11
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Thought it might be an idea to list all the known losses and near misses etc of Bank Line ships since 1945. My morbid fascination with ship wrecks, I guess... I hope members and Bank line shipmates can help fill in the blanks..

My recollections:-

Kelvinbank - wrecked Ocean Island. after grounding and salvage attempts.
Westbank - grounded Juan De Nova, and recovered to live another day.
Southbank - wrecked Christmas island - line islands
Beaverbank - grounded Fanning Island , but recovered by U.S. navy from Hawaii.
Trentbank - collided and sank Mediterranean. ( Video on line)
Lindenbank - grounded and lost W Coast S. America
Forresbank - burned out and wrecked S Africa, near Port Elizabeth.
Moraybank? - grounding Straits of Magellen and recovered


I know there was another loss in the Pacific islands after a lot of effort at salvage ( name escapes me) and several groundings where salvage was successful, plus the infamous bridge collision (Forthbank). Would love to see a comprehensive list of all the near misses! Can anyone add to the above list please?
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A couple of corrections - taken from Alistair McNab's excellent summary of the Bank Line maritime phenomena in the SN Directory ( Well worth a look - and highly recommended to the serious student, and to the casual observer alike)

The Southbank, of course, was wrecked on Washington Island.
Lindenbank - was wrecked on Aug 17th 1975 on Fanning Island.
Levernbank - was wrecked at Matarani ( Peru) 9th July 1973
( The one referred to by (I Blenkinsopp)

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Hi Alan,

Yes the Levernbank! I knew it began with 'L' my apologies to all ex Laganbank crew!
I seem to recall the Tweedbank (Capt Ball) going seriously aground in vicinity of the Fiji Islands maybe 1978/9?

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Here is a memorable press photo of the burial ashore on Washington Island, Line Islands, of the second Mate of the Southbank, with the wrecked ship in the background.

He was William Mackintosh from Balintore in Ross-shire.

A lifebelt from the ship was placed at the grave, and 3 shipmates participated. Anyone out there who was present at this tragic time, Xmas 64/65?
Could be a Relly, most of my dads family came from Rossshire
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Could be a Relly, most of my dads family came from Rossshire
Hi Hamish,

Read your post and had another look through the press cuttings.

The second Mate was William. O. Mc Intosh, aged 23, from Park St. Balintore, Ross-shire. He was on his first trip as 2/0 after getting his ticket ( Mate's presumably) a year before.

If these reports are accurate, his d.o.b. would be 1941.

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Here's another photo of the ship's company of the Southbank on the beach at Washington Island. The photo was taken by a press photographer in the aircraft from the rescue ship USS Winnebago, from Hawaii.
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Old 18th April 2013, 16:02
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Thanks Alan! Nah he was too young, he is even younger than me,but he could be in the family somewhere, will have to check with the maiden aunts who keep track of such things
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Forresbank

I was up for Second Mates in Aberdeen with the lad who was either senior apprentice or acting Third Mate of the wrecked Forresbank.

Regrettably, I can’t remember his name now. If I recall correctly, he came from somewhere on the West Coast of Scotland.

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Hi Alan,

Yes the Levernbank! I knew it began with 'L' my apologies to all ex Laganbank crew!
I seem to recall the Tweedbank (Capt Ball) going seriously aground in vicinity of the Fiji Islands maybe 1978/9?

Eddie
I think that was the Maplebank in Fiji,and they got her off after several weeks on the reef.
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I was up for Second Mates in Aberdeen with the lad who was either senior apprentice or acting Third Mate of the wrecked Forresbank.

Regrettably, I can’t remember his name now. If I recall correctly, he came from somewhere on the West Coast of Scotland.

Keith
Hallo Keith,

A pal of mine, John Beale, who was 2/0 on the Forresbank when she was lost has kindly provided the information re your post, and I have taken the liberty of copying the para from John's email earlier -



" The 3rd Mate on the Forresbank was Fred Skinner and he actually came from Inver Fearn, Tain in Rosshire. North of Aberdeen. I visited him a few years back when I was sailing in Scotland. I do have his address but do not know if he is still around. The Senior Appprentice was Ben Masey who lives in Eastbourne, I saw him last year. "

Was this the man you were thinking of?

Cheers/Alan

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