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Old 17th October 2014, 23:27
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In the old days, actually not that old as far as I am concerned our shipping company was The British Tanker Co. That was when the parent company was called the Anglo Iranian Oil Company. That all changed around 1956.

Now The British Tanker Company initials abbreviated to BTC were derogatorily changed to 'Better Times Coming". Now I'm not sure that was based on Ships, Ports or Food.

There were always old ships, bad ports ; who could complain about the Br Workman , or Abadan and the Shatt el Arab ( spelling?) even Mina and Umm Said. But food depended on the Old man and the Chief Steward and in some ships did vary dramatically.

I personally had really no complaints, as an Apprentice ate my heart out.

So I have made a collection of some menues, the attached are three of mine , I have some more given to me by contacts.

So has anyone else have some , with appropriate comments of course

Graham
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Old 17th October 2014, 23:35
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Another senior moment . Menu is singular, Menus must be plural?
So Menues is ( I have no idea). Menus just does not look correct. Not exactly a word I write very often.

A large Oxford dictionary, very heavy and 2509 pages gives me no help at all.

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Old 17th October 2014, 23:42
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Graham - BPTC

Definitely 'menus'.
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Old 18th October 2014, 00:21
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Menue is a French word - I think it is an adjective and means very small.

So, the heading means belonging to something insignificantly French - or something like that
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Old 18th October 2014, 16:49
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Christmas Tenacity76, all done by hand, the artist said it was the best she could do with limited materials.
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Old 18th October 2014, 18:08
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Menue is a French word - I think it is an adjective and means very small.

So, the heading means belonging to something insignificantly French - or something like that
Great, Thanks, now I feel even worse

James_c Moderator can you help me out again, 2013 instead of 2015 was bad enough.

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No BP menus kept......but the change in cuisine from that of the British Admiral in 1966 to the Board of Trade rations aboard the Cardiganbrook after the 1967 seamen's strike was striking. As the steward said, "we're here to feed you, not to fatten you!"
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Old 18th October 2014, 21:26
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I recall seeing sea pie on the menu and innocently asking the Chief Steward what it was. "You'll see when you get it" came the reply.
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Old 19th October 2014, 00:31
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Had Sikadis Curry on a menu once. Food was great, just a comedian of a Chief Steward ( I was going to write Grocer but it might upset the Catering Department!).LI cant remember his name or the ship, a VLCC possibly Resolution, but we ate well that trip. ll
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Old 19th October 2014, 01:25
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Had Sikadis Curry on a menu once. Food was great, just a comedian of a Chief Steward ( I was going to write Grocer but it might upset the Catering Department!).LI cant remember his name or the ship, a VLCC possibly Resolution, but we ate well that trip. ll
Resolution 11/1979, Chief Steward MJ Winter, that the one deserving accolades?
JL Whiting CE.

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Old 19th October 2014, 01:30
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Christmas Tenacity76, all done by hand, the artist said it was the best she could do with limited materials.
Phil,
Destiny Christmas 1959

Though not as good as 'hand made' by a female.
In my day only females were wives of OM or CE, neither did participate as far as I remember.

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Old 19th October 2014, 01:34
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What the heck happened to the picture, it look ok in the 'post preview'!

Try again.

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Hind sight is a great thing. I wish I'd done things like keep the first menu from the first ship I joined Tec. Alas I was young and naive. However I do remember there was Sweet and Sour Pork on. How do I remember? Coz I chucked most of it up before we'd even dropped the pilot I think.
No disrespect to the cook, it was prob a combination of to much beer, and the motion of the ocean. The one and only time I was ever sick at sea.
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The menus for the famous Cape Dinners were the best that I saw. Some Chief Stewards and Cooks made fantastic Cape Dinners and they were very much appreciated.
I recall when I was J/E on the old British Renown the food was so awful that the whole crew came to the Midships Pantry and scraped their dinners onto the Pantry floor as they were so fed up of it all. The old man made the Chief Steward and Cook remake a full dinner for all the crew. The same Chief Steward also " lost " his Bond Book over the side as he had got into such a mess with his accounts and then went round everybody asking how many cases of beers we had had over the last 4 / 5 months. You can imagine some of the replies he got !
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Old 19th October 2014, 14:22
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In the old days, actually not that old as far as I am concerned our shipping company was The British Tanker Co. That was when the parent company was called the Anglo Iranian Oil Company. That all changed around 1956.

Now The British Tanker Company initials abbreviated to BTC were derogatorily changed to 'Better Times Coming". Now I'm not sure that was based on Ships, Ports or Food.

There were always old ships, bad ports ; who could complain about the Br Workman , or Abadan and the Shatt el Arab ( spelling?) even Mina and Umm Said. But food depended on the Old man and the Chief Steward and in some ships did vary dramatically.

I personally had really no complaints, as an Apprentice ate my heart out.

So I have made a collection of some menues, the attached are three of mine , I have some more given to me by contacts.

So has anyone else have some , with appropriate comments of course

Graham
I always thought BTC stood for Burgoo, Tripe and Curry
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Looking back, and thinking how good those menus were, and the quality of the food.
I guess by todays standard of eating there is nothing really special about them. A real treat then, but very little by todays standards of eating ashore.
If you see what I mean?
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Good spread on the Trident, drydock party Sembawang 79.

Considering the quality of some of the stores and conditions in the galley in the hot weather, the catering staff on the whole did a pretty good job.
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Fantastic spread. First time I ever tasted avocado's was on BP ships.
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Avocado's (lantern swinging mode) Two crates of them appeared via the chopper at Capetown. [It was the time that we later received a message from HO asking why so many helicopter trips were needed !] Anyway the chef & the Cat O then discovered that the only two people on board who actually liked them were me and the chef. Wonderful two weeks followed with umpteen ways of serving them.
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The menus for the famous Cape Dinners were the best that I saw. Some Chief Stewards and Cooks made fantastic Cape Dinners and they were very much appreciated.!
Hear, hear
Here is the menu from Cape Dinner on the Argosy, with the page from my cadet's journal describing it and the party after. When reading bear in mind that there were no wives on board at the time.

I was never on a BP ship where we didnt eat well, but some were of course better than others. In particular not all cooks were much good at breadmaking and some ships the bread was bricklike.

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Hear, hear
Here is the menu from Cape Dinner on the Argosy, with the page from my cadet's journal describing it and the party after. When reading bear in mind that there were no wives on board at the time.

I was never on a BP ship where we didnt eat well, but some were of course better than others. In particular not all cooks were much good at breadmaking and some ships the bread was bricklike.

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Just missed that one, I joined the Argosy a week later in Dubai (26th) Darn good menu!
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Standard of food always excellant.Cape dinners even better.I think sometimes we took the catering staff for granted at such events.
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Always a good idea to keep well clear of the galley for a couple of days prior to a big Do. The crowd used to muck in with the washing up etc afterwards as I recall.
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Excuse my ignorance, what is/was a Cape Dinner?
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Bob , think it's something to do with celebrating the fact that a BP tanker
managed to make it to the cape.
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