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Old 23rd May 2012, 00:43
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teabag was john lugton i think.mikey stewart is in the pic.as is stuart kerr.
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Old 23rd May 2012, 11:04
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Hi Mike

Yes Davey Langlands is still with Cerco at the moment, doing some work on a stores system according to Colin, of course he may have finished that now and be on another job.

Some of the guy's to cross the bar are Tam McKenna (pic), Hugh Clark (pic), Harold Burt (pic), Brian Sherriff, Scouse Webster, Roy Beveridge, Semour Lachlan, Alastair MacGreggor (pic), Frank Boyle, Sandy Boyle, Davey Brown (pic), Frank Derry (pic), Colin Thompson (pic), George Booth, Mike Waldron, (pic) and there are 4 or five others possibly in the picture but I can't remember there names at the moment especially the mate who took the salvage classes? 2nd row between Hugh Clark and Norman Stubbs.

The names of the crew on Nimle in Norway that I remember are Skipper - Barry Kinch, Mate - Jerry Furze, Chief - Myself, 2nd Eng - Colin Booth, Stoker - Derek Welbon, can't remember the other names, one of the AB's was nicknamed Teabag, one at the back next to Jerry Furze.


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Shame to see so many have gone. Thanks for info re Davy Langlands.

Mick Carey was the Training Officer at MSS&SD. At the same time I think the Salvage Engineer was a namesake of yours , I've got a feeling they used to call him 'faither'. Bob Erskine took over from him.

Thanks for the names on Nimble; it looked very cold up there. Roo has already identified the others - John Lugton and Stewart Kerr. I can still mind Stewart's efforts on Cairn at making lentil soup! I'll say no more.
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Old 23rd May 2012, 21:19
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Thanks for that Roo I see Mike has already got the names from you of the other three I forgot.
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Old 23rd May 2012, 21:25
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a few names from my time in rosyth by the way Harold's name is spelt Birt my cousin.
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Old 23rd May 2012, 21:31
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Hi Mike
Some other names for you that have crossed the bar. Tom Rennie (pic), John Griffiths and yes it was indeed Mick Carey (pic), also the Deck Officer back row next to Peter Graham can't remember his name, know his nickname but wont put it on site. Some other names John Rennie & Bobby Hannah.

Pete Graham is back on the Tugs, he is over in Gibraltar, as for the remainder some I havent seen or heard of for years so I can't help you there.
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Old 23rd May 2012, 22:08
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I like this word tweak, it was because of quote tweaking that it took Davey and Colin ages to get the right settings on the control systems. The prop setting being only correctly achieved whilst in dry dock as you had to align all marks. When I rejoined her as chief I carried on along with Colin and eventually she came good. We normally ran on one Engine due to a directive from Bath, only two Engines if situations required it, one Engine 4 - 6 Tons of fuel over 24 hr period, two engines 8 -10 tons, quite a bit of extra fuel for extra three knots. I was on the Iceland trip where the hull got cracked in steering flat, had to shore off area, put in drain away and cement block it up, plugging drain on completion, lasted till we got home. The weather conditions on that trip were bad to say the least and we took a lot of damage, loosing the cat walk between the horns being another part of damage, also Crane electrics being goosed due to water intake. The weather on that trip was so bad we were forced to use both engines. But one thing is for sure the Salmoor was the only one of the three built to the original specifications. I also carried out a full vibration analysis check on Salmaster when I was with the vibration team in Rosyth, the results being duplicated and sent to Bath, but they must have been like the Newton and disapeared at sea? Most of the problems with a lot of the machinery was due to mounting on the hull, some machinery being worse than others. Also during next refit after that time, extra ballast and stiffners were added to tanks to eleviate some of the vibrations, it improved situation a lot. The ballast that was added should have been there in the first place. By the way as I tried to point out to a certain boss on the Clyde, it made no difference if you ran two engines whilst manouvering as only one took the load. The port engine I think, so one engine was enough for most tasks and of course entering and leaving port, and if you don't believe it I suggested he read the manuals. I don't suppose that did my career any favours, but hey I'm still here, well I think I am, I was when I got up this morning.


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I recall departing Rosyth with the engine control system doing anything but control the engines, so Willie Miller and I tweaked the system to keep the show on the road. In really good weather heading North we managed to get 15 knots on one engine on Salmaster. I know from my time in Bath that Salmoor and Salmaid could not get close to that. Strange to recall now that getting that speed on one engine didn't give the same cavitation problems we used to get when running 2 engines up towards full pitch.

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Some other names for you that have crossed the bar. Tom Rennie (pic), John Griffiths and yes it was indeed Mick Carey (pic), also the Deck Officer back row next to Peter Graham can't remember his name, know his nickname but wont put it on site. Some other names John Rennie & Bobby Hannah.

Pete Graham is back on the Tugs, he is over in Gibraltar, as for the remainder some I havent seen or heard of for years so I can't help you there.
paul darby i think bev.
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Paul Darby and his brother Peter Darby were childhood friends of my in Wyke Regis. At that time their Father, George Darby was I believe the Captain on the tug Antic in Portland. They moved to Rosyth when the tug changed base ports. They lived in the Prefabs in Inverkeithing/Dunfermline and later down at Limekilns.

My next door neighbour was the engineeer on the Kinbrace Mr Fennymoor.

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Old 24th May 2012, 22:49
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Hi All

Sorry I spelt Harolds surname wrong it should have been Birt not Burt. I was corrected by senior pilot who is his cousin, sorry once again. Thanks for getting name for me i.e. Paul Darby, I should have remembered but as said once before I am terrible with names.

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Old 24th May 2012, 23:20
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Hi Tony

Thanks for that bit of info but you may know didn't pauls family stay in a little place off the Rosyth to Crombie road called Pattiesmuir? I know Paul stayed in Limekilns for a time after he married, he returned to stay in Pattiesmuir on his return back up here after his stint down South.

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Bev, yes, last saw his Mother in Pattiesmuir whilst I took Swiftusre into Rosyth in the early 1990s. Last saw Paul on a trip to Portland and had a boat trip on the Opal. Got into trouble when they put us on a buoy and some of the craft did a photo call for us. Paul was escorting I think the Tidespring out but may have been another RFA. Not sure of the date. Cannot remember which tug he was on then.

Had some good times back in the 80s. Had a guided tour around Rosyth Kyle and Greenock which was after the above. The Navy Days at Rosyth was the following day so we went out on the Spear and watched and photographed the Fearless being brought in for Navy days. The trip around the basin also nearly got the host officer in trouble as we could not resist pointing our cameras towards the laid up submarines, well one my colleagues did.

One day I will have time and know how in putting pictures onto the web.

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Cass Cooper and I were cord holders at Paul's funeral at Pattiesmuir; a sad day for someone who was only 57. After he left RMAS he was mate then master aboard the Forth Ports dredger Abbotsgrange until the dreaded Big C took hold so personnel moved him to the Grangemouth harbour office where we often handed over to each other while on shift work. I drove him to the Western General in Edinburgh a couple of times when the illness was too bad for him to drive and Gaye couldn't do it.

When I first started at Rosyth both Paul and Gaye were very suppportive of me and my family until we found our feet, for which I was always extremely grateful. And it wasn't just us either, at the same time they were both helping Jimmy Jasper and his wife who lived just across the road.
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Old 29th May 2012, 21:23
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Some other names for you that have crossed the bar. Tom Rennie (pic), John Griffiths and yes it was indeed Mick Carey (pic), also the Deck Officer back row next to Peter Graham can't remember his name, know his nickname but wont put it on site. Some other names John Rennie & Bobby Hannah.

Pete Graham is back on the Tugs, he is over in Gibraltar, as for the remainder some I havent seen or heard of for years so I can't help you there.
Hi Bev,

Pete Graham got the Gib job by chance as at the time there was an advert by QHM Gib in Lloyd's List which I saw when I was working at Forth Nav. I can't remember now whether I faxed it over or posted it over to RMS who I think Pete was working for at the time but shortly afterwards he was off to Gib!

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he was working for rms at the time mike.he was engineering manager.did harry maize not stay in pattiesmuir ?
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Roo No I think Harry Maize stayed down Limekilns way I think but not 100% sure. Bev
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ah ! ok bev.ive only ever been in pattiesmuir once.for jimmy cowies funeral.cheers. ROO
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I spoke to an ex Forth Ports colleague and he tells me that Kommandor Calum is not on the advance list for Leith arrivals as yet. If anyone knows different please post a thread.
my understanding is that the contract has still to be awarded for this major conversion mike.there are a few yards that have bid for the work.it should be resolved this month.
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my understanding is that the contract has still to be awarded for this major conversion mike.there are a few yards that have bid for the work.it should be resolved this month.
Cheers Roo. If she does go to any Forth Ports port then we can look forward to a good set of photos - before - during - after!
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SALMOOR now renamed KOMMANDOR IONA

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theres a pic of kommandor calum undergoing her conversion on the same site.
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I sailed on Newton for 12 years from new, and yes - she was a very good sea boat, but for the first few years was unbelieveably good - we could enjoy lunch in any conditions.

Then the Active Motion Limiting system was finally fitted, adding about 30 tons to the forward end, which made NEWTON into just a very good sea boat.
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Anyone got any info about the progress of the conversions on the 2 ex sal boats ?
Its all gone a bit quiet.i thought at least one of them would have been near completion by now.
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the newton is in ghent being scrapped at the moment.
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