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Old 15th January 2006, 19:49
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RMAS 'R' Class Tugs - merged threads

Does anybody know if the stories are true about the Rollicker going down with her tow and all hands? If anyone has any more information I would be most Grateful! Andy
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Old 15th January 2006, 22:27
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Andy,

One of my old neighbours was Ch Steward on her when she was based on the Clyde. He was on board in 1979 when she was involved in the rescue effort following the Fastnet disaster.

1973 / 1037gt

Built by Charles D. Holmes, Beverley (1029)
Operated by the Royal Maritime Auxiliary Service

Sold to New Zealand owners in 1997 and renamed JOSEPH BROWN

Sep 2000 sold to Iraqi interests whilst at Dubai. Renamed ALFAHD and sailed from Dubai 18 Feb 2001.


http://www.tugphotos.co.uk/pages/rollicker.htm

Equasis website shows her as being "in service" - last updated 07/11/2005

Is the report of her loss recent?
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Hi Gulpers, you are always there with great information! What a star you are! It was generally known that Rollicker went down with her Tow, but your information had put paid to that. I remember her based at Portland, all three of the class look somewhat Squat in appearance, it is as if they chopped a few metres off the stern. I wondered what they handled like in poor sea conditions. I know the general rule of thumb for a skipper before he left to pick up a tow, in bad weather was to sail out of the harbour and "have a look at it" before setting off on voyage. A good practice perhaps, but it got a wee bit silly when returning to harbour after looking at a severe gale force 2!!
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Andy,

Glad to help. Google provides most of the answers!

Tug boat skipper and Pilot Boat Coxswain! I can't believe that you use the "assess the Gale Force 2" option.
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I never did, Too young, just memories from what my father told me, but that's what some of the old Rmas Skippers were like.
One skipper of RMAS Confiance was just coming alongside in Portland, when he just checked over the Starboard Bridge wing to veiw the distance to berth, when the bridge door blew shut and he could not get back in to stop the Engine!
One J.O.S On his first day on a Tug was told to stand back by the bosun, and watch and learn "as you will be doing this the next time" He then threw a heaving line up a 20ft freeboard and straight into the ships Panama Lead (lucky or what?)....to which the J.O.S said..."Christ! I am never going to be able to do that" ! Andy
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I've always been interested in the RMAS vessels since they were always around on the Clyde when I was a lad.

When I was based on Islay with my present job, I sent some time on board one of the Clyde RMAS Tenders. They had a party of RN Clearance Divers on board and were destroying ammunition from Otranto, a 12,124-ton liner, built 1909, converted by RN to merchant cruiser in 1914. 535ft x 64ft. 12,000hp quadruple expansion engines. Nine 6in guns.
Cargo: 665 US troops and equipment, Halifax, Nova Scotia for Glasgow.
Position: 55 45.46N; 06 28.40W.
Sunk: 6 October, 1918 in collision with liner Kashmir in same convoy during Force 11 storm. Broke up after grounding off Isle of Islay. 431 drowned.

There were some mighty explosions as the Navy lads cleared the wreck - most spectacular ......... what a way to go fishing ........ that's another story though!
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Hi Gulpers, I may have got the Wrong Tug of the three, So It may be "Robust" or "Roysterer" that went down, as I am aware, she went down with a Twin Tow. Do you have any info on the Other two tugs of the class? ("a wee Dram, is turning out to be a bottle of Teachers!!!!") Andy
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Andy,

According to Equasis ROBUST is still in service:

IMO 7341037
ROBUST
Tug
1037 Gross
Year of Build: 1974
Flag: Antigua and Barbuda
In Service

Have a look at these links for ROYSTERER'S situation in 2001 - renamed AMOLESE

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tugboa...8?viscount=100

http://members.lycos.nl/towing/album9/page14.html

If any of the three came to a sticky end, the likeliest is ROYSTERER although, according to Equasis, AMOLESE is also still in service.

IMO 4906460
Call Sign: 5NSX
AMOLESE
Salvage Ship
1036 Gross
Year of Build: 1972
Flag; Nigerian
In Service


Eh ...... Teachers is 'Cooking Whisky' ..... a nice Bruichladdich Islay Malt would be much more suitable!
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Tug JUPITER 6 was lost recently with all hands; ex REDOUBTABLE, could this be the one? Google search: tug jupiter 6.
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Ian,

Thanks for that. Some interesting articles there about Jupiter 6's loss.

There were only 3 tugs in the Roysterer class and we seem to have proved that they are all still in service.

RMAS Roysterer (A361)
RMAS Rollicker (A502)
RMAS Robust (A366)


Jupiter 6

"Coloured Fin Ltd. has sold their 4960BHP twin screw anchor handling ocean tug "Theseus"(ex-Geronimo Two, Britoil 3, Redoubtable, Chambon Alize, Sea Husky) to unnamed buyers. The vessel was sold "as is" with damage cause by a fire which affected all areas of the accommodation and bridge. The tug, which measures 130' x 32.5' x 17.4', was originally built by Brodogradiliste Tito in Yugoslavia as '"Sea Husky". Tug is powered with twin B&W 16V23LU main engines driving controllable pitch props in active kort nozzles providing abt. 80 tons bollard pull. Tug was lying damaged in Trinidad at the time of the sale. 'Theseus' will be renamed "Jupiter 6". This is the 5th sale or purchase Marcon has worked on with Coloured Fin."


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all three of the class look somewhat Squat in appearance, it is as if they chopped a few metres off the stern. I wondered what they handled like in poor sea conditions.
I've heard this story that they were reduced in length, something to do with fitting in a berth, but it was a while back and can't remember any details.

I've heard they were quite 'lively' in heavy weather, but could still take it. I did one trip from Portsmouth to the Clyde on RMAS Robust, but in calm seas, so it was no problem.

Rollicker at her berth in Cardwell Bay in Gourock is a vivid child hood memory for me.
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Rollicker at her berth in Cardwell Bay in Gourock is a vivid child hood memory for me.

Me too Hendo, although sadly not a childhood memory!
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Rollicker at her berth in Cardwell Bay in Gourock is a vivid child hood memory for me.

Same here, even though I'm that wee bit older than you!

Did you say you had a Mohican the other night?

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Hmm, So I guess it was a load of tosh!! Great information though Gulpers! "Teachers" may be cooking whiskey....but hell....It get's me through the night!
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Andy,

Ok, you smooth talking so and so, I'll lower my standards and join you in a Teachers!

Glad to have been able to contribute to your enquiry!
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Thanks Gulpers, Your help in all these matters are much appreciated.
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Rollicker did indeed sink, unsure of the date, but in or around the gulf area
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Rollicker did indeed sink, unsure of the date, but in or around the gulf area
Landour,

Interesting, can you try and get some details?
Just tried Equasis Website again and it still shows her as being "in service" - last updated 01/11/2005

Presumably her loss must have been after November 2005!
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Hmmmm Back on the trail!!!!
Yeah Andy - the plot thickens!
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Yeah Andy - the plot thickens!
I served as 2nd/3rd Engineer on Robust & Roysterer, out of Plymouth '86-'91, great tugs to work on, did some tows to St Kilda, Loch Boisdale, and out into the Atlantic doing trials work.
We did hear that Rollicker was lost, but didn't pursue it.
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Trying to do some rooting about here. A few Googles has got me an IMO number of 4500046, a further Google got to this page here.
http://www.world-register.net/index/A4.shtml

There is a Cambodian flagged Al Fahd with a build year of 1973 which would tally up with Rollicker. A DWT of 635, Rollicker GRT is 1,036 tons, could someone help out as to any relation between those two figures?

Not much on the interweb I'm afraid. The World Register site would probably get me the owners but I think it would cost plenty much money to register with them.
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Found Joseph Brown HERE

I've tried Googling Ocean Towing and Salvage (Joseph Browns owners) but the OT&S that comes up are either Cook Islands or Vanuatu.

edit - OT & S (Cook Islands) is based in Aukland, NZ.
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Found Joseph Brown HERE

I've tried Googling Ocean Towing and Salvage (Joseph Browns owners) but the OT&S that comes up are either Cook Islands or Vanuatu.

edit - OT & S (Cook Islands) is based in Aukland, NZ.
Hi guys,
I think that's where I got the info I posted in #2.
"Sold to New Zealand owners in 1997 and renamed JOSEPH BROWN
Sep 2000 sold to Iraqi interests whilst at Dubai. Renamed ALFAHD and sailed from Dubai 18 Feb 2001."

She just seems to disappear after being sold to Iraqi interests.
What date is the Cambodian flag info in Hendo's post #23?
Just checked Equasis again. Nothing has changed. She is still shown as being "in service" (last updated 07/11/2005) and they don't have an entry against her Flag State.
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