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Old 1st August 2007, 03:57
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The Comments to date seem to be Brocklebanks / Cunard and Moss Tankers but if you read the initial post I think you will agree that the question raised is quite broad and Im am sure any posts of " least favorite ships " would be appreciated from any source .
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Old 1st August 2007, 12:21
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Do you mean least favourite of a particular company or least favourite type. I can't comment on the former but as far as type is concerned it has to be these car carriers, now with vertical bows!!
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Old 1st August 2007, 13:15
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Since this is in the Brock's forum I've hijacked the title and started a thread on the mess deck for all us "others" to moan in.

Brock's Boys are, of course, welcome to join in.

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Old 3rd August 2007, 21:10
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Never had a "bad trip" - mind some were better than others!!

Sailed with one 2/M who was leaving due to redundancy and on his last voyage he kept a list of what he regarded as bad times on the trip (precious few hasten to add) then when he was tempted to don the rose tinted spectacles he could take the list out and realise that going ashore was the right decision.

Wise man!!

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Old 7th August 2007, 21:06
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Sailed on a couple of miserable Brocks boats but looking back it gave me a great insight into personalities and gave me a hugh sense of tolerance towards collegues which I have to this day........There was no back door at sea you just adapted to the characters, something you can't do ashore
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Sailed on a couple of miserable Brocks boats but looking back it gave me a great insight into personalities and gave me a hugh sense of tolerance towards collegues which I have to this day........There was no back door at sea you just adapted to the characters, something you can't do ashore
John! Sorry to be pedantic (he said just before being pedantic) but them there Ro-Ro ships t'Atlantic Causeway and t'Atlantic Conveyor did have extremly large f**k-off doors at t'back so, you see, there were back-doors on ships!!! Toodle-pip! Phil Roe
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Old 8th August 2007, 20:06
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Not sure about the comment, but I would assume that being a Brocklebank forum the majority of posts would relate to Brocklebank ships.
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Old 8th August 2007, 20:07
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re Salty swamp. Not sure about the comment, but I would assume that being a Brocklebank forum the majority of posts would relate to Brocklebank ships.
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Old 20th May 2008, 18:40
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Yes,

MV Lucigen. In the early seventies I was an Engineer Cadet on the Lumen sharing the run between Ras Tanura and Jedda with the good old Lucigen. We were occasionally in port together and heard all the horror stories. I only had about another month's sea time left to go before rising to the dizzy ranks of the one bander, and arrived in Jedda to see the Lucigen still on our berth. It seems the fifth engineer had met an unfortunate accident, and the ship was held up because they couldn't get a replacement flown in to Jedda. (in those days we flew to Dahrain on the east coast. The Saudis were funny about entry to their country). To cut a long story short the Chief Engineer on the Lucigen approached the Chief on the Lumen, to see if they could have me. I was offered an early promotion if I would jump ship. Believe it or not I got away with a refusal!

The Lucigen was the only ship I ever saw with a football field. The centre castle which never had accomodation built on it had a mesh structure built round it and was used for footy. Perhaps that's how the fifth engineer broke his arm / leg or whatever it was. Some say he did it on purpose.
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Probably the Asiafreighter - the officers were the most pompous bunch I'd ever met (or meet) and as it was only my 2nd trip I was treated like either a naughty schoolboy - or a pariah.
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Old 21st May 2008, 10:45
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There are two, Havdrott and Havjarl, both, as would usually be the case are to do with the people rather than the ships. British Officers with the exception of the 4/E and 3/0 who were Filipinos, as were the crew. The bulk of the Officers had been P&O, but were now part of Havtor, but still thought themselves P&O. They, with one or two exceptions, treated the Filipino officers disgracefully, refusing to socialise with them. As one of them put it, "this is a white man's bar". At the same time the Filipino Officers were forbidden to socialise with the crew.
I joined as 2/0 having been on conventional tankers and OBOs before and was given absolutely no help in learning a new job at all. Indeed, I found myself being stabbed in the back at every turn on both ships, by 2 of the 3 Mates I sailed with, both ex P&O.
Two examples will suffice:
1) I joined the Havjarl in Sembawang preparatory to going into drydock. The day I joined I'm going around the ship with the Mate when I fainted. I'd flown out from Britain in winter to an eternal 30 degree summer, after a very long flight. "Go and have a lie down says the Mate, don't worry about it". Next thing the Old Man is banging in the door "What do you think you're doing? Where do you think you are? The Mate said you were taking it easy and he was right!" Or words to that effect.
2) We're sailing from Sembawang that day. After lunch the Mate tells me that the Pilot is due at 1500 and gives me a job forrard and a walky talky. As I go forrard the Old Man shouts on the walky talky "Where's the f....g Second Mate, the Pilot's onboard. why isn't the gear tested?" Turns out that the pilot was due at 1300, which the Mate knew fine well, but of course denies telling me 1500.
Shower of b......s. I was glad to go, and the only company I ever resigned from.
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Old 14th October 2008, 22:02
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As a new member I am still going through the various messages - most of which were months and months ago. I agree with Tony Spriggins and others that memories of most Brock ships were pleasant although some characters were nicer than others. Engineers mention the hard work in some ships' engine rooms but I venture to suggest that the engineers on a subsequent ship of mine would test them to the uttermost. I left Brocks in 1947 as I wanted rapid promotion so I joined the Anglo-American Oil Co's twin screwed motor ship F J WOLFE at Barrow. She was a truly rogue tanker. Built in the 30's she was taken over as reparations before WW2. She had MAN engines which constantly broke down. The reson she was at Barrow was because engineers from MAN Germany were working with Vickers to develop peroxide powered submarines and they thought they could sort out the WOLFE'S engines. After 3 wonderful months at Barrow where we had a ball we went to Cammell Lairds in Birkenhead to drydock. On leaving, the electric steering broke down as was its won't; 2 anchors were dropped and we rounded nicely and came alongside Woodside ferry stage. Awaiting passengers hurtled back up the gangway off the pontoon.
The engines broke down every few days and we spent a week or two at Port Said and then the same in the Persian Gulf. This was normal routine; the engineers kept watch in swimming trunks because of the spurting oil. It is the only ship I have been on where the deck crew assited the engine room staff to draw pistons and fit new rings. On one voyage we rendevoued with a sistership the D L HARPER in the Arabian Sea and rowed over piston rings to enable her to get going. Tugs would meet us by the Nab Tower and help us up to Fawley with only two cylinders on one engine operating.
I was on her for a year and one of the masters was Tyrrell from Arklow - a well known family there. He had served on the Iriquois - the ship that towed a big 7 masted sailing barge regularly from the Mexican Gulf to the Thames.
The sails were in case the tow broke.
The WOLFE would loose about 200 tons of oil on passage and once coming down the Arabian coast towards Aden in the hevay seas of the SW Monsoon we had a trail of smooth oily seas behind us with several small tankers using it to get a smoothish ride.
Happy days ( not quite)
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