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Old 4th January 2011, 11:19
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LACONIA - sinking September 1942

For those with access to UK BBC Two televison, there is a drama based on the September 1942 sinking of the Laconia by U156 this week.

It is in two parts showing on Tursday 6 and Friday 7 January, and has been written by Alan Bleasdale, he of Yosser Hughes (gissa job) and the Boys from the Blackstuff fame.

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Old 6th January 2011, 11:07
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Sinking of the Laconia, on BBC 2

Today 06/01/2011 on BBC 2 at 21:00 part 1 of 2, a true story of the sinking of the Laconia by U-156, and its attemps to save the civilian crew.
Link:http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00x9cjj
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Old 6th January 2011, 13:52
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There is a detailed report on the Laconia sinking in the SN Directory pages: -

https://www.shipsnostalgia.com/guides...sters_-_Part_7
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Old 6th January 2011, 17:14
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Read in the Mail today about the sinking of the Laconia after being torpedoed
by a Uboat,after surfacing seeing all the people in the water the captain attempted to rescue lots of the survivors including civilians,would he have done this if it was not for the fact that most of the people in the water were Italian
who were allies of the Germans.
When sinking any passenger ship he must have realised that there would be lots of people on board.
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Old 6th January 2011, 17:52
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Thanks for alerting us Andy. It will be interesting to watch, however I suspect, as is fashionable nowadays, the Allies will be condemned for not calling for a temporary cessation of the anti U-boat war while the U-boat commander carried out his humanitarian act, attempting to save his Italian Allies. I hope I am mistaken.
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sinking of the laconia

I am surprised that no one has commented on the anomalies and down right mistakes made in last nights tv programme about the sinking of the Laconia. Where are all the nitpickers ?
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Old 7th January 2011, 15:19
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I think that you have to have the right approach to what was shown and that it is Alan Bleasdale's "take" on event's that were Based on a true story rather than it being a factual covering of the event.
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Cunarder with yellow funnel, three different types of braid on the bridge, Cunard, RN, inverted "v". thats for starters.
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Old 7th January 2011, 16:28
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Junior third,three gold chevrons on his shoulder and the crossed anchors of a Bosun on his arm,still trying to fathom out what his job was other than a baby sitter.
Regarding the ship every thing was filthy.
Having said that I did enjoy the first half.
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You've opened a can of worms here, binliner.

A Hollywood approach with perhaps too many mistakes for most of us to comment.

Never saw such gold braid.
A telegram to the ship about an officer's family - during the war!
The captain having a leisurely talk with a colleague when his ship is going down, and tells the man to cup his cigarette, in case a u-boat sees it, when the ship is ablaze.
The u-boat telegraphist using only his index finger to operate the Morse key.
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LACONIA is shown ,at sea, as she was with double banked lifeboats on luffing davits. On board shots are shown with gravity davits! Also, surely she would be overall in wartime grey? But still an enjoyable programme.
Cheers, John.
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I enjoyed it and am looking forward to the second half tomorrow night.
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Amazing to have such leisurely chats during chaos however I think the instruction to cup his cigarette was sardonically humorous under such circumstances.

Did anyone actually use an index finger to send morse I wonder, not easy I'd guess. I would have liked at least some views of the Laconia's radio room.

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Old 7th January 2011, 17:26
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Not bad last night. However the junior 3rd Officer has 3 rings and the u- boat crew seem to spend a lot of time on deck and drinking bottled beer !
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With reference to the shot of the U-boat crewmen walking along the floor of a drydock, against the background of a fair-sized vessel on the blocks, complete with bulbous bow - when did bulbous bows first come about then?

Felt a lot of the acting was very wooden or OTT. Reminded me of the Titanic film, another one I had to stop watching after a while.
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Am I the only one who can not bring themselves to watch any ship disaster movie?
The Posiden Adventure turned my stomach, still not seen Titanic and no desire to.

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First visit for a long time, guessed the laconia would bring a load of comments,not dissapointed, be back again tomorrow
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Thumbs down Re Laconia

SO MANY MISTAKES , A FILM COULD BE MADE OF THOSE ALONE, IT SHOWED 2 LIFEBOATS BEING TOWED, THERE WERE MORE, TYPICAL MOVIE COCK UP OF A REAL EVENT, THEY FORGET PEOPLE HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF THE REAL EVENT, SAME AS LAST TITANIC FILM, MADE IT INTO A LOVE STORY, A NIGHT5 TO REMEMBER WAS FAR MORE FACTUAL, THIS IS A WASTED OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A FACTUAL MOVIE, TOO MANY EMBELLISHMENTS, TO MANY MISTAKES REGARDING EQUIPMENT, UNIFORMS, TH E BRIDGE ATMOSPHERE WAS CRAZY, WHAT ELSE TONIGHT ? stores ?
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Second part not much better !.
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During WW2 I think a baby sitting ticket was part of 2nd mates writtens and had to be carried out on articals with the seatime counting. Loved the programe.

My question is why did they change into "Blues" 645 miles off the coast of Africa?
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Not a bad show, but I doubt if it will get an Oscar nomination! I thought that there would be a lot of remarks after seeing the shots in the dock bottom!
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Eriskay; 1936 ish with the "Bremen", if I remember correctly, but the form of the Bremen forefoot was flatter at the bottom. The boot topping/ant-fouling colour was far too recent too!
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I haven't seen the second part yet, BBC2 Wales had rugby on last night (typical) and I believe that they are showing it tonight, although it's not listed in any of the listings, Radio Times etc, so I suppose it's a case of wait and see!!
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Not a bad show, but I doubt if it will get an Oscar nomination! I thought that there would be a lot of remarks after seeing the shots in the dock bottom!
So did I.
I find it helps to disengage reality drive when watching this type of drama then the facts don't get in the way of the enjoyment of it
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2nd Part Zzzzz

Watched the second part last night. Is this the way to portray such a historical event? Women standing around with fresh faces, makeup, nail varnish hairdo's chatting as if nothing much had happened. Major engine repairs happening with no sounds. Hardly any injuries or shock, losses hardly mentioned, a lost baby hardly missed with virtually no tears. The seemingly endless and boreing dialogue was lightweight and pointless. Also the extreme closeup on faces during dialogue was irritating. A complete waste of time

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