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Old 9th April 2017, 16:59
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A Seaman's Story - follow-up research

[https://www.youtube.com/watch%3fv%3d...5kw&s=1_green]

I first saw this film about a month ago on another site.

Those interested in the war at sea may be interested to watch this 13-minute production by the Realistic Film Unit. Made during WW2, in 1942, It tells the story of a 26-year-old merchant seaman as he relates his story to camera after being sunk 4 times - his name is never mentioned throughout the piece.
The way he tells his story in such a calm, dignified and matter-of-fact way had an effect on me and reminded me of my own father and what he must have went through during WW2.
I wanted to find out his name and if he had family that were maybe unaware of the film so I decided to do some research. I quickly found out his name and was able to prove he was the subject of the film. I obtained his records and can now name him and the four ships that he was aboard when he was sunk.
I have contacted his family in Newfoundland and shown them the film and also contacted the Imperial War Museum who hold the rights to this production. The family are more than happy that he is named and the IWM will add his name to the credits of the piece.

Cyril Jardine from St John’s Newfoundland aged 26 in 1942. He was aboard the ship ENGLISH TANKER when it was bombed off Alicante on 6th June 1938 during the Spanish Civil War.
During WW2, on 11.2.1940, he was aboard IMPERIAL TRANSPORT when it was torpedoed and the ship broke in two. He was landed by HMS FORESTER at Scapa Flow 17.2.1940.
AVILA STAR – 6.7.1942 - torpedoed and sunk – survivors landed Lisbon 26.7.1942, after 3 weeks in an open boat, by the Portuguese sloop Pedro Nunes.
PENROSE – travelling as DBS (being repatriated back to the UK after previous torpedoing) and torpedoed again 3.9.1942). Rescued by Spanish trawler and again landed at Lisbon.

The Merchant Navy – the forgotten fourth service – I did not want this man to be forgotten after all he had been through.

I have since found out that he was first identified by Capt. David Brook of Somerset in 2009 and have been in touch with him.

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Old 9th April 2017, 17:34
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Great job Hugh well done.
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Very humbling. The bravery, tenaciousness and spirit are amazing.
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Thanks also for this Hugh.
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Many thanks for your tenacity, Hugh.
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Old 9th April 2017, 20:09
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Well done Hugh,
Your tenacity is to be applauded.

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Old 9th April 2017, 21:23
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Hugh,

Well done and thanks for posting this thread.

Any more info on the career of Cyril Jardine? Must have gone to sea earlier... 1932 or 1933. What about post war? People like Cryil Jardine made the Merchant Navy was it was.

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Old 9th April 2017, 21:49
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Thank you all for your kind comments.

This is what I have come up with so far regarding his career at sea.

I believe he first went to sea in the early 1930s. There are no records held in the Fourth Register of Seamen so back tracking using Crew Agreements from 1938 on ENGLISH TANKER would be the way to find out previous ships from that date.

ENGLISH TANKER – 13.1.1938 – Spanish Civil War – bombed and sunk off Alicante 6.6.1938.
DROMORE – 17.5.1939
STRATFORD – 21.10.1939
IMPERIAL TRANSPORT – 8.12.1939 (11.2.1940 torpedoed and ship broke in two). Landed by HMS FORESTER at Scapa Flow 17.2.1940
EMPIRE CORAL – 22.7.1941
LETITIA – 6.1.1942
AVILA STAR – 17.4.1942 (6.7.1942 - torpedoed and sunk – survivors landed Lisbon 26.7.1942)
PENROSE – (travelling as DBS (repatriation back to the UK after previous torpedoing) and torpedoed again 3.9.1942). Rescued by Spanish trawler and again landed at Lisbon. Then travelled on conveyance order on ARDEOLA arrived Gibraltar 12.9.1942. Signed on ACCRINGTON 18.9.1942 for passage to UK (as Supernumerary)
11.12.1942 – leave of absence on health grounds until 10.4.1943.
No further ship records recorded on his CRS 10.
Further research shows he then appears on ELISHA GRAVES OTIS – 20.4.1944
DARWARNIC – 13.12.1944
BERESFORD PARK - 4.1.1947 – as 2nd Mate.

His family think he may have left the sea around about 1960 ish.

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Old 9th April 2017, 22:23
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11.12.1942 – leave of absence on health grounds until 10.4.1943.

4 months after THREE sinkings! He should have retired after that lot!

Thanks.

So from 2nd Mate up to the 60s. I wonder if he went right to the top and end as master?

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So from 2nd Mate up to the 60s. I wonder if he went right to the top and end as master?
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Hi Stephen, I think he did make master. He was a keen golfer and his family say there is a cup named after him in St John's - Captain Cyril Jardine.

I agree with you regarding retirement on health grounds. Sunk 4 times by 1942. I wonder what he was thinking his chances of survival would be - not knowing at that time that there was still another 3 years of war.

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What an amazing film from many years ago. Where do you find these type of
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Thanks for posting this Hugh. Both my father and father in law sailed on merchant ships throughout the war but were fortunate enough to not have been torpedoed. I also worked with several seamen who had been torpedoed during the war and one who was torpedoed twice and survived unscathed. We all have a great debt to their memory.
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I bought "Western Approaches "a couple of years ago and this film was an added extra on the disc.
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Thanks for posting this. I touch my forelock to he and his kind. My paternal Grand Father was another one, Chief Engineer with Canadian Pacific also torpedoed once I seem to remember on METEGAMA or very close to it.
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Many thanks, Hugh, your grand efforts are much appreciated.

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I bought "Western Approaches "a couple of years ago and this film was an added extra on the disc.
Yes, you are correct, it was/is on that DVD.

For those interested, when I first saw the film, I noticed he took his discharge book out of the case. I paused/played the film back and forth until I could make out each digit of his Dis. A, then matched it with a Seaman's Pouch held at Kew. Once I had a name I still had to prove it was him so some checking of online accounts mainly with regard to the sinking of AVILA STAR seemed to confirm this. I obtained his pouch and CRS 10 from the National Archives just to be 100% sure.

With their numbers now declining, soon we will have no veterans left to ask. Little do we know of their suffering.
Respect to every single one of them and a big shout out to those of whom we are lucky enough to have on this site.

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Another fine piece of research, Hugh.

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Top notch stuff well done Hugh !!!
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Hello Hugh,
I am the granddaughter of Capt Cyril Jardine.
My brother and I grew up very close to my poppy and nanny since my parents were divorced and so I spent half of my time with my grandparents. He was a wonderful, quiet and kind man. He taught us how to golf in the backyard and then onto the course as well as play chess backgammon and crib by the time I was 6 yrs old. He loved watching the news and funny tv shows like the 2 Ronnie’s and Carol Burnett. We knew very little of his time at sea other than the little bit my dad and uncle told us. He was a very humble and modest man and a hero to my brother and I. He died when I was just 16 and I visited with him daily until he passed. He is dearly missed and and always loved. I learned of this video just a couple of weeks ago when my dad passed away in Nfld and my cousins were telling me about it so I started my search to find it. I found this page and the wonderful stories you have shared. The video however is not available anymore and so I was wondering if you could send me a copy so that I could pass it along to my brother and family.
I would greatly appreciate it.
Thank you again.

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Hello Lisa,
When I did my research the film was available on u-tube but not anymore. However, you can view it at the Imperial War Museum site here:
http://www.film.iwmcollections.org.uk/record/1166
They have now added his name to the site along with the ships that he was aboard when torpedoed 4 times. I was in touch with his neice Lorraine McGrath about a year ago.
I am so pleased to have been able to discover his name and researched his sea career. I hope you enjoy seeing your grandfather as a young seaman on the film.
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