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Old 16th September 2007, 07:34
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now working on hospital ship usns comfort.

curious if any of you know!

Oh currently on a voyage on the american hospital ship comfort, been traveling all through Central america, & west indies this summer dolling out Philanthrapy work, quite a trip, next stop today, Port Of Spain Trinidad, Then Guiana, & surinam, Then Home to Norfolk virgina mid October....

How many of you worked for either Cp or canmar or Cast out Of montreal, was always told" oh they'll never employ you on there as they only employ east indians & do not pay very well, was this true, I'm talking about 1980's & 90's recently called anglo eastern's office in montreal & got the same rebuttal, by a fello from India, just wondering, sailed up there in canada on lakes for an assortment of lakes companies on both sides of the lakes as have papers in canada & usa, called having Dual status.

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Old 16th September 2007, 07:56
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Bill, a warm welcome to you. Thank you for joining the community; enjoy the site and all it has to offer, and we very much look forward to your postings. Bon Voyage
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Old 16th September 2007, 10:05
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Welcome aboard from northern England, Bill.
I'm sure someone will reply to your query. Meanwhile find your way around and enjoy the voyage.
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Old 16th September 2007, 11:41
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Welcome aboard from the Philippines. Enjoy all this great site has to offer
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Old 16th September 2007, 15:14
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Greetings Bill and welcome to SN from a member in the south of England. Enjoy the site and thanks for signing on. Bon voyage.
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Old 16th September 2007, 17:29
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Welcome from Lancashire.

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Old 16th September 2007, 19:38
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Welcome on board Bill and greetings from Londonderry
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Old 16th September 2007, 21:09
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Be carefull ashore in Port of Spain . It can be quite a dangerous place in the evenings .

Re Canmar they were well paid to my observations had good crews . Most were Canadian and ex pat Brits . They did employee quite a few Inuit as well as they were operating in the Arctic as it was their poicy to hire people from the area they were operating in .I did not meet any East or West Indians .
My connection with Canmar was as project manager ( With Saint John Shipbuilding ) for the construction and delivery of the Canmar " Kigoriak "


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PS The hostpital ships do a great job ; I met with the Vessel " Hope " in Colombo many years ago ; Happy Days !!
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Old 16th September 2007, 21:50
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Thanks for the greetings, Canmar as i recall was an oil exploration company out west in alberta, as to why they had ships out of montreal, i'll never know, they absorbed cast & its all been absorbed by Hapag-Loyd recently, just curious about what I'd might have been employed by insteda of being stuck on lake boats witha silly seafareres union in canada that was run by crooks sanctioned by the affilliat there. If I remember right the canadian coast guard bought up that vessel mentioned they were ice breaking supply tugs, correct, one of them now is the TERRY FOX.

On another note how many of you out there sailed in the west indies, interisland trade, for Canadaian national steamships, vessels like canadain constructor, victor, crusader & cruiser, along with the small 4,700t park boats, sunderland, landsdown, etc, etc. & let us not forget the Lady boats as well.
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The Terry Fox was built by the Canadain Coast Guard in Vancouver , She was not an ex Canmar vessel .
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Old 16th September 2007, 22:58
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Old 16th September 2007, 23:11
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My mistake, but I thought the canadian govt bought up a few of these ice breaking supply tugs a few years back, they had somthing to do with canmar & gulf oil, oil exploration in the far north, belive having to do with terminal at bent horn, worked on the M.V Artic for a while back then regular trips to Nanaisivic & Antwerp/Rotterdam, the Lead ore & Grain to Leningrad. The artic is supposed to be moving nickle Ore from Voisey bay along With the New Unimak1 To Montreal & maby Churchill... not to sure on that..

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Welcome to SN Bill. Having been very involved in the crewing of Canmar ships I can assure you that the standard for wages, catering, work conditions and employee welfare were the highest in Canada. The policy was, pay them well, feed them well and get the mail out there on time. We usually failed in the latter task. Don't know many other company's that flew in lobster tails for the Sunday night buffet! The majority of hiring was done from Canadian east coast fishermen with most of the catering crews hired from recently retired Canadian Navy chef's and stewards.

We hired some senior officers from the UK in 1975 to start as there was a shortage of suitable candidates in Canada due to good employment conditions on the Great Lakes. They came in on annual work permits for each season and went back to the UK in the winter. We had many a phone call from British banks asking for written verification of income because they could not believe the wage declarations made by some of our guy's buying houses back home.

Most of the UK lad's eventually became Canadian citizens as a result. Other than the work permit senior officers, no one was employed unless a Canadian citizen or legal landed immigrant. We certainly did not hire cheaper foreign crews. As part of the drilling concessions, there was a requirement to hire a minimum 25% of the workforce from the regional Inuit communities.

After spending the first 5 years of operations keeping the unions out of the Arctic by various means, we allowed the SIU access to the ships. Out of 350 crew members the union only received three applications in a certification vote.

Most of the Canmar fleet was registered in Edmonton, Alberta, not Montreal. Strange as in may seem, although miles from the sea, Edmonton is an official port of registry, initially set up to accommodate company's operating ships on the MacKenzie River.

I cannot speak for conditions on CP Ships or Cast but to my recollection they were all operated by offshore company's and registered elsewhere as they traded internationally and were not required to be registered in Canada and only crewed by Canadians. There are others on this site more qualified than I to tell you about conditions on the Great Lakes trade.
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Old 17th September 2007, 22:23
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Kind of wondered about that as was fed increasinlgly bad info from the siu in canada,that prez for life Roman G. & his daughter run it now, still, somthing amis there can you see this, he was a flunkie of that american gangster Hal Banks that was brought into canada in the 1940's to remove Pat Sullivan's SUPPOSEDLY RED BACKED CANADIAN SEAMNS UNION, this done by CLS & CANADIAN GOVT AT THE TIME, eventually The pearson Govt in 64 went after banks & he ran away to usa for sanctuary, so don't blame any canadian company for flagging out & hiring from away, no suprises, but strangely people at unemployment could never refer you to any hiring agencys, even knocked at doors at fed com, & saganuy, no replies at all, just blank stares as cabn recall. this after several beatings of dissident members of the siu had to be a member of it for they manned the majority of canadian registered vessels on the lakes, 1980's work was not plentiful, so off to usa I went, had papers there. no work wound up in ameican navy working on assorment of vessels there & eventually working for msc in 1989, landed my first job with them on this hospital ship then, was here for the nonsense in Kuwait, all 9 months of it, was a real show on here, so called all dressed up & nothing to do, go figure a ship like this with 2000 people on here, it was a real show in the gulf of persia, blue skies & sun bathing ...all those women on here it was a show! Today on here all the military med staff been red the riot act on fratinerzation, & they are all like mice... Funny to see this ship under the blue skies of the carib, & no sun bathing at all, still a real issue on drinking too, sad everyone drinks behind coled doors & mistrust. just walk by the physio therapy room & remember how much use those tubs got in 1990-1991, all for a bottle of gelen morangie scotch...oh yeah if people only knew! Worked others with the company, & had an enjoyable time, mediteranian & gulf of persia, sort of voyages read about from people who worked for B& I.

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