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Old 4th September 2011, 06:06
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I was on 3rd phase Jan to Dec 1976, stayed in the Mariners. Blimey this has stirred some memories.
I remember the Star of the East v well, quality of the beer was judged by the size and number of floaters! Did we dare complain? No way!!
Lunchtimes in the Green Man helped pass the afternoons in college!
Woolwich, workshop time - swapping bits between the two sulzer barge engines to confuse your mates. Then going to the pub Friday lunchtime for some 'adult' entertainment.

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"........... There was a system whereby your company did not pay you fully on ticket leave so the dole was there to 'top' it off. All very legit but sounded really odd!........"
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Remember signing on at Leith (2nd mates 1965) for exactly the same reason. I astonished the 'Bru' staff by actually taking a job during the College holidays, it was at the SPA warehouse somewhere in Edinburgh.
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Sheeesh,
It was 41 years ago today - 13th September 1970, That I began my Cadetship with NZSC and Poplar Tech, whilst staying at the Mariner Hotel. A lot of water has gone over the side since then!
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I must have been around at the time in finden rd in 72/73 with bernie, Atholl Blair who was always after change so he could phone caroline? in belfast Mick lyons another name from that time I remember bernie's pest control methods. Do you remember Neil and the stop children crossing sign from forest gate nick, also the sessions at the rising sun with john groves behind the bar

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Just found this forum and website and here we are! Lots of PTC stuff right here. Magoo, you may not remember me but I certainly have been reminded of some of the people I knew and in particular John Groves who I shared a house with in Halley Rd, Manor Park! Also there was Richard Soman, Keith Forget, Clive Goulden. Neil Matthews and John I'm still in touch with after all these years! I just met up with an old mate called Paul (Beeps) Burgoyne back in June who's now a school teacher. He used to have vintage motorbikes in those days. Lots of memories jogged here. Thank you! Some other names I remember: Chris Brautigham (sp?), Dave Arnold (still in touch with him!), Nigel Hancock.
This forum has been an inspiration and reconnected some neurones that were seriously disfunctional.
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Old 10th October 2011, 16:12
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Recall the Grapes down by the river. David Owen MP (Gang of Four) lived a few doors away. Spent 3rd phase there 1975. If I recall we used to go to a Girls Collage over the river nick name of Raggy Mags. Anybody remember that.
Napier, Star of the East & Londoner all have a fond place in my heart and an empty place in my pocket.
Yep. Raggy Macs, or Rachel McMillan College was a regular haunt and I went to many a night out there and saw several bands in the hall including Mud! Mmm, impressive! I had a girlfriend who studied there and many fond memories of the place. Buggered if I know how you got there though but driving around the East End then was very much simpler than it is now I suspect.
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Old 10th October 2011, 16:15
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Does anyone know what actual street the North Woolwich annexe was on? And what was the pub close by where I used to go for a lunchtime pint and listen to Alice Cooper's "School's Out" on the juke box!?
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Old 12th October 2011, 01:18
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Does anyone know what actual street the North Woolwich annexe was on? And what was the pub close by where I used to go for a lunchtime pint and listen to Alice Cooper's "School's Out" on the juke box!?
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Yes I remember the street name It was Empson Street. I was there from 1979-83, Turnbull Scott Cadet. Happy memories of taking that machinery apart which had been taken apart by so many Engineer Cadets before. Cant remember the pub name though. Im still In the shipping business. Now working as a Class Surveyor.

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Empson Steet was in Bow, not North Woolwich from my memory? Might be wrong. Slivertown Way comes to memory but that might have the road to there. can rember the sweet smell of the sugar refinary, just the job after a heavy night!
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Old 15th October 2011, 03:28
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Yes Dox, I think you're right. Empson St was where the Poplar Tech workshop annexe was where we did stuff like turning and workshop practice. The North Woolwich annexe was where the final year engineering was done and It was down somewhere off North Woolwich Rd I think. Now most of that old stuff has been knocked down to make way for things like the University of East London. Just would have liked a confirmation of exactly where it was! I was doing my 3rd year in '73 and it was a very different place then. In truth, not a very nice place either! Mind you, you could at least drive to the West End in a realistic time, grab a pint and be back before midnight. Try that now! Cheers, B
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I studied for my Second's steam ticket at Poplar Tech in 1962. I always thought the most amusing time was lining up for the dole, was it each week, too long ago to remember.
I reckon it was one of the most well dressed dole lines in London. There was a system whereby your company did not pay you fully on ticket leave so the dole was there to 'top' it off. All very legit but sounded really odd!
I went back in 1999 to look at some of my old roots and was totally taken aback at the area, just overwhelmed by Canary Wharf.
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. Hello Graham did you know David Morgan BP HNc Apprentice? about the same time. Wound Up with the DtP Ports Division in Sunley House High Holborn. I sailed with him on the Courage in 64 as apprentice, Great time David was 4/e. David served on the SE IMarE committe, when he was connected to the Port of Dover.

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The pub near North Woolwich Annexe was the Kent Arms,just across the railway line.You wouldn`t go there in the evening! The annexe was in Store Road I think it was part of the old Cable & Wireless factory.I was there for Phase 3 ,13-9-71 to 14-7-72,it was a wonderful year in my life.
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Old 16th October 2011, 05:08
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I was on 3rd phase Jan to Dec 1976, stayed in the Mariners. Blimey this has stirred some memories.
I remember the Star of the East v well, quality of the beer was judged by the size and number of floaters! Did we dare complain? No way!!
Lunchtimes in the Green Man helped pass the afternoons in college!
Woolwich, workshop time - swapping bits between the two sulzer barge engines to confuse your mates. Then going to the pub Friday lunchtime for some 'adult' entertainment.

Ian ex BP
So Ian, what was the name of that pub at North Woolwich near the workshops?! And do you remember one of the engineering lecturers called Rathbone? Always stuck in my mind as being a very dry old stick! Not entirely without humour though. God, you'd need a sense of humour to work there every day with the like of us lot!
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Old 16th October 2011, 11:17
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Blimey!!!! Reading through these threads has joined up some brains cells - long out of action!! Poplar 69 - 73. Stayed at a Scroggins house in Forest gate. I shall re - read all the threads and peice all the stuff together - thanks guys!
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Yes Dox, I think you're right. Empson St was where the Poplar Tech workshop annexe was where we did stuff like turning and workshop practice. The North Woolwich annexe was where the final year engineering was done and It was down somewhere off North Woolwich Rd I think. Now most of that old stuff has been knocked down to make way for things like the University of East London. Just would have liked a confirmation of exactly where it was! I was doing my 3rd year in '73 and it was a very different place then. In truth, not a very nice place either! Mind you, you could at least drive to the West End in a realistic time, grab a pint and be back before midnight. Try that now! Cheers, B
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You must have been there same time as me. Phase 3, 73-74.
Did you know Alan Gosling? He was an RFA cadet.
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Old 2nd November 2011, 01:38
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You must have been there same time as me. Phase 3, 73-74.
Did you know Alan Gosling? He was an RFA cadet.
Hi Dox,
Yep, I guess we were there about the same time but I think I was there a year earlier because I started at PTC in 69 so Phase 3 would have been 72/73. Can't place anyone called Alan Gosling, but that doesn't mean much... my detailed memory seems to have deserted me!
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. Hello Graham did you know David Morgan BP HNc Apprentice? about the same time. Wound Up with the DtP Ports Division in Sunley House High Holborn. I sailed with him on the Courage in 64 as apprentice, Great time David was 4/e. David served on the SE IMarE committe, when he was connected to the Port of Dover.
Yes David I have met him, originally back in 2003 and last contact in 2009.

He was a 1956 Intake, sailed on as 3E to 1965 and left BP

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Old 3rd November 2011, 08:40
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Yep, you would have been a year in front of me / us.
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Just re-read this thread and it brought back even more memories, although as 1968-70 OND course I was a bit before most contributors. I seem to remember there was a massive single leg blast injection diesel in the basement that was occasionally run up for demonstrating how to take cards, but it shook the whole building so it wasn't used much. A couple of lecturers came to mind whose names I can't recall One was a little pipe-smoking ex MN engineer who taught us thermodynamics, but would frequently tie himself in knots with the calcs and have to go out to calm down ( and, it was rumoured, to get another lecturer to explain what he was doing wrong) Nice bloke, but really he taught us more about what to expect when we got to sea than he did about thermodynamics. Another character was our maths lecturer in year 2 - a young bloke who had a Masters degree in Mathematics but was studying for a degree in law, he used to set us work to do in the class then get on with his own studies. No-one messed him about because he was an amateur wrestler! And how long did the half-size snooker table in the common room survive for? It was pretty rough by 1970, that's for sure, but that's where I learned to play.
But my main memory is of trying to concentrate in hot stuffy rooms, while looking out of the window at the ships in the West India Dock and thinking "When am I finally going to get to sea?"
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I was on a pre sea course at Poplar in 1965, mostly BI cadets with 4 of us from Blue Star. Stayed across the road at the Queen Vic Seamans Rest...7 bob a night, closest pub I think was the Manor. Frequented Charley Browns on the East India Dock Road and also the Prospect of Whitby on Wapping Wall. Happy Days
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You must have been there same time as me. Phase 3, 73-74.
Did you know Alan Gosling? He was an RFA cadet.
Hi Doxfordman,
I was RFA in 1970-1972 and 1973-74 at Poplar. Alan Gosling was one of our lot along with Eric Hambling, Frank Bryden, Rob Cottam, Pete Best, Graham Jeffrey, Paul Cooper, Roger Stevens, Oswald Moseley, Steve Piper?, Derek Emm, Andy Sheward and Rick Hudson.

Last saw Alan Gosling in 1974/75 around Richmond/Twickenham.
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The building on the corner of Commercial Road and Salmon Lane was the "stack of bricks", used by MAR cadets in the 60s, with the watering hole just opposite called the Cooper's Arms run by an ex docker Bill and his wife Grace. Gawd knows what the locals thought of us but a genteel place of recreation it was not! Stack of Bricks is now a block of flats - quite tastefully converted but the plaque at the top of the main entrance still has all the details about seafaring and King George V opening it. Cooper's Arms long gone and replaced by boring modern flats. Star of the East is, last time I went passed, still boarded up. The Mariner's Hotel is still there but is now a hostel of some sort. West India Dock Road has been sanitised - no more Chinese restaurants just modern low level blocks of flats but Limehouse Police Station is still there - remember when living in the Mariner's we were asked to supply 9 blokes to take part in a line-up! Got half a crown for our trouble. Good to be young in that era. Someone mentioned Raggy Mags - nowadays it's student halls of residence for one of the universites.
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Hi Doxfordman,
I was RFA in 1970-1972 and 1973-74 at Poplar. Alan Gosling was one of our lot along with Eric Hambling, Frank Bryden, Rob Cottam, Pete Best, Graham Jeffrey, Paul Cooper, Roger Stevens, Oswald Moseley, Steve Piper?, Derek Emm, Andy Sheward and Rick Hudson.

Last saw Alan Gosling in 1974/75 around Richmond/Twickenham.
Wow, I remember most of those names. Alan fetched up living in Weymouth and was a Super for Condor Ferries. He got divorced and moved with his new partner to Southern Spain, where I believe he still is. He has holiday accommodation up in the hills just outside of Malaga.
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. Hello Graham did you know David Morgan BP HNc Apprentice? about the same time. Wound Up with the DtP Ports Division in Sunley House High Holborn. I sailed with him on the Courage in 64 as apprentice, Great time David was 4/e. David served on the SE IMarE committe, when he was connected to the Port of Dover.
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I started my Apprenticeship with BP in 1955, there was no HNC course running at that time only OND's. David L Morgan was a 1956 Intake at Hendon where BP started it's HNC studies ( I do not know how they did that, I always presumed you had to have an ONC before progressing up to an HNC! After I left BP I went back for an HNC with all endorsements for A.I. Mech E.) There were only 13 BP Apprentices in the 1956 intake at Hendon.

I first came across David Morgan in 2003 and retained contact up to 2009. In 1993 he joined I MarEst in a management function. He died in 2011, I will try to attach his Obituary.

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Thanks to you all for putting a big smile on my face I was one of a group that did Phase 3 with a difference at Poplar 73/74, we were OND failed so did Phase 1 METC in the first half of our time and then the Phase 3 METC Advanced in the second half of our year there, it was a bit of a crammer especially fitting it in around all the boozing and whatever at Raggy Mags, Guys Hospital amongst others, weekend trips away for "football"
Remember the Kent across the road from the N Woolwich annexe, used to do drag nights, very entertaining! We stayed in Queen Vics, locals the African Tavern, Green Man and another one the name of which escapes me, Terry and Maureen were the land lord and lady and they had a most attractive daughter called Terresa. Commander bloody Martin put me off Nav arch for life and it was thanks to Bob Smith in Shields I managed to pass it for chiefs.
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I spent from September 75 to July 76 at Poplar, staying at Queen Victoria Seamens Rest.
Sort of a "Remedial" course for about 25 of us from all different companies and previous colleges to retake the METC we failed in Phase 1 - in my case due to having too much of a good time in Hull for the first two years!! The idea was to resit the original exam and do workshops in the first four months and then go on to the METAC the next year. A very condensed course.

There were a couple of us from P&O, BP and Shell, with half a dozen from RFA, the rest if I remember correctly coming from Houlders/Blue Funnel/Ocean.

Workshops on a Friday down in Woolwich with an 0800 start, and 1700 finish - we had to get the required workshop time in to satisfy City and Guilds! Always remember that place - there was an old condenser in the yard we were 'sent to work on' as punishment for an assortment of offences. 'Work' involved battering the ferrules and tube packing to death in order to remove a tube. (you'll need to do that a lot when you get back to sea sonny!) I've never seen a condenser with tube packing in the 35 years at sea since then!!
I remember that most of the (steam recip) pumps we had to dismantle and take measurements as exercises had the nuts and bolts only hand tight and there was usually a sheet inside with all the correct answers/figures written down by previous cadets.
Used to have lunch at the STC cables factory on workshop days, food was superb compared with that at Queen Vics.

We spent most evenings in a pub a couple of hundred yards behind Queen Vics, at a bend in the road on Upper North Street, can anyone remember the name of it? Manager was called 'Tell' or Terry and used to drink Guiness - usually had a drink on four corners of the bar! The building is still there (I've looked on Google Earth Street View) but has been converted to flats by the look of it and is overgrown with ivy.

Happy times................
I did the same as you the year before, had a great time many fond memories, what was the name of that pub, I went back a few years after and Terry got me so pissed I had to sleep it off in the back of my car before I could get back to N London where I was visiting my brother!
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