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Old 20th January 2012, 10:21
clive jones clive jones is offline  
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Joined Sugar Line from Gravesend Sea School.

Importer, Refiner, Crystal, Producer, Trader, Carrier.

Remember some great times + good runs.

Would be interested to track down any other crew members.
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Old 21st January 2012, 14:15
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Hello Clive, refiner, jan-feb 65, sapphire,mar-may, 68, carrier,apr-dec, 68, producer, feb-june 69, sapphire, nov-69-mar 70, producer, apr-may 70. good memories of these ships. Cheers, Colin.K.
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Old 21st January 2012, 21:58
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Hello Clive, refiner, jan-feb 65, sapphire,mar-may, 68, carrier,apr-dec, 68, producer, feb-june 69, sapphire, nov-69-mar 70, producer, apr-may 70. good memories of these ships. Cheers, Colin.K.
Thank you Colin, I came along a few years after you approx 1975.
Spending many years then steaming around on most of them
Trinidad and Jamaca regular runs, leaving from Silvertown.
Had some good times with that company.
Best Wishes
Clive
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Old 24th January 2012, 15:58
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Hello Clive, refiner, jan-feb 65, sapphire,mar-may, 68, carrier,apr-dec, 68, producer, feb-june 69, sapphire, nov-69-mar 70, producer, apr-may 70. good memories of these ships. Cheers, Colin.K.
Hi Sailor63, did you ever sail with my grandfather Jimmy English, from Liverpool,engineroom storekeeper, little fella, joined Sugar Line after he finished on Canadian Pacific ship, Empress of Canada?.
I done a couple of trips on the M.V. Benefactor of T&J Harrisons on the bulk sugar runs,one back to Liverpool from Georgetown, British Guyana,another to Silvertown from Georgetown with a top up at Belize. Always found that if a country could grow sugar or bananas the loading port was guaranteed a brilliant run ashore for us,half days,cheap booze(Rum)cheap women and a bronzy(apart from the rainy season in Guyana).
Many regards Jim English.
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Old 24th January 2012, 17:00
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sailed on the producer early 70 ts had a month loading in that lagoon at savana la mer then to salt river a great trip great crowd for some reason the bar was closed but no problem there is plenty of green stuff growing in jamacia [blood clat man] great times we were lucky to say the least
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Old 20th May 2012, 16:57
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Thank you Colin, I came along a few years after you approx 1975.
Spending many years then steaming around on most of them
Trinidad and Jamaca regular runs, leaving from Silvertown.
Had some good times with that company.
Best Wishes
Clive
hi clive i was on sugar trader jan 76 like you savana la mar salt river about 5-6 weeks negril looked different then just a bar at the top of cliffs and american ladies sunbathing nude on the beach i was cattering boy i had a great time
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Old 21st May 2012, 09:13
clive jones clive jones is offline  
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Thank you for thread,many many years ago now.
But remember clearly weekend's on Negril beach and Island hopping among the rich and famous. People will pay a fortune for that now.
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Old 21st May 2012, 10:18
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the one thing i remember obout that trip was the captain getting a dose from one of deffys girls in savana la mar
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Old 21st May 2012, 21:58
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hi clive i was on sugar trader jan 76 like you savana la mar salt river about 5-6 weeks negril looked different then just a bar at the top of cliffs and american ladies sunbathing nude on the beach i was cattering boy i had a great time
On Sugar Transporter 1958/59 Savannah La Mar and Salt River just anchor ports then no runs ashore.Made up for it at Kingston and Port Royal.
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Old 15th November 2013, 11:31
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Producer 76-77, Crystal 77, Refiner & Transporter, back to Refiner and I finished on the last run for the Trader Tilbury grain to Rotterdam. I was apprentice and seem to remember all the company PO's acted as crew for the last trip. About 1979?

Piloting now in Bristol.

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Old 15th November 2013, 12:43
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Sugar exporter two trips, marvellous . Good crew all stayed for next trip think 1st trip was the big Heinz Bake beans strike "we want Heinz" as they marched around the foredeck (: We went to Rotterdam for a short run before leaving London on the 2nd trip.
Chipp58, how the f did you know he got a dose? We would never have known that, it would have been seriously hushed up. Must say never saw the skipper ashore in any of the joints we went too (: Wonder what they did, go to dinner with the agent I guess?

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Old 15th December 2013, 20:11
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sugar trader

the chief steward told us before we got off
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Old 16th December 2013, 13:57
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sailed on the old sugar transporter 1956 A WAR TIME BUILT SHIP / A JEEP / good canteen at plastow and the jubilee pub over the road
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Old 11th March 2014, 03:14
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hi clive i was on sugar trader jan 76 like you savana la mar salt river about 5-6 weeks negril looked different then just a bar at the top of cliffs and american ladies sunbathing nude on the beach i was cattering boy i had a great time
Hi Clive,
It was a good trip. I was the 3rd.Mate. How time flies!
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Old 23rd March 2014, 16:24
keith humphreys keith humphreys is offline  
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Exporter.

Hi All
Sailed on exporter 1974, first trip jnr/eng, joined in Silvertown, to Trinidad and back, cant remember the deck officers,the capt was i believe Welsh like myself, the second was from Hull and was named
Steve Beverage, the 3rd was a scouse named Alf Nelson, and I think the
Chief was called Vincent Guibara if thats the correct spelling long time ago now,one trip only good time,from there went to Geest line.
Regards.
Keith Humphreys.
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Old 23rd March 2014, 18:27
George Bis George Bis is offline
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I think I was 3nd.Mate that voyage. Did the Electrician glue his teeth with bostick ?
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Old 23rd March 2014, 19:58
George Bis George Bis is offline
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Sorry that last was rather brief. If I remember the Old Man was Chris Davies, the 2nd. Mate was Mr.McConvill , the Chief and the others were who you said.
She had a Cape Verde deck crew.
I was only on her one trip as I was phoned at home to stand in for someone else. It was for me an enjoyable enough trip with, if I remember were smooth seas. Actually I stayed some time (until 1979) with Sugar Lines and really enjoyed it
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Old 24th March 2014, 14:50
keith humphreys keith humphreys is offline  
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False teeth

Hi George.
Now you have mentioned teeth I do seem to remember the lecky
doing that caused a bit of a laugh in the bar,I seem to remember
somebody nearly choking on there pint when he told us, his name
was john and he was from Hull,sailed with him a couple years later
in Common Brothers.
Did you ever sale with anybody else I mentioned in last post.
Regards.
Keith.
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Old 25th March 2014, 12:42
George Bis George Bis is offline
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Hi Keith,
It certainly seems that we were shipmates on that voyage. Unfortunately I was only on her for that one voyage and as I joined at the last min. in London and as I did not drink at sea I did not get to do any socialising that voyage. How time flies though.
I met the 3.rd, Engineer Alf in Dublin in 1978 but otherwise never met anyone from that voyage again.
After we were made redundant in 1979 I went into the road haulage industry with TNT where I stayed for four years and then set up on my own. I can't say that is "swept the nation" but I did make a reasonable living for myself.
I am married and semi-retired these days.
How has life treated you since the Merchant Navy?
Anyway, nice hearing from you and best wishes.
George Bisacre
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Old 26th March 2014, 11:11
keith humphreys keith humphreys is offline  
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Exporter

Hi George.
Well it's a funny world after what after 40 years we realise we were on
the same ship.
After I left the Merchant Navy, I returned to the fork lift truck industry
and did that till 2005,when my wife and myself moved to Spain had
4 years there until 2009 when we moved back here, so am retired
now but am thinking about returning to work.
Fancy you meeting old Alfie in Dublin,he seemed a lonely old sort
lived in the mission hotel in Liverpool, I think he had a married Sister
but not sure.
Kind Regards
Keith.
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Old 26th March 2014, 12:35
George Bis George Bis is offline
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It is a small world and it is frightening where all these years have gone to.
It really doesn't seem over 40 years since the "Exporter" By the way you must have had quite a hard voyage on her as I seem to remember quite a few breakdowns on the way to Trinidad.
When I met Alf in Dublin he was taking his leave in, if I remember the Flying Angel. I was traveling from Sligo to Liverpool and he hailed me at the bar. We had a beer and that was it.
When I was at sea I never had a camera and have very few pictures of my old ships but lately with the internet I have been digging out all sorts of pictures of them with details of what happened to them after they were sold. The "Exporter" and "Importer" are about the only ones I don't have a full history off.
Any way best regards,
George
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Old 27th March 2014, 15:42
keith humphreys keith humphreys is offline  
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Exporter.

Hi George.
Yes where has 40 years gone, and how many people that we have sailed with during our time are no longer with us sobering thought.
Yes it was for me a baptism by fire in that engine room not really
understanding what was going on,and all those breakdowns,I seem to
remember being inside the crankcase a number of times,and chiefy
shouting and balling when he should not have been in the engine room
and bouncing of the enging cos he could not keep his balance,still we managed to keep the old tub going,do you know I don't think I went outside the accomodation once all that trip,don't even no how old the ship was in 1974,I think if I had not been offered a job with Geest line
I might have stayed with sugar line.
Who did you say the 2nd mate was,and did you know what the 4th eng was called can't remember his name but I do believe he was quite
tall and wore glasses.
Take care George.
Regards
Keith.
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Old 29th March 2014, 13:06
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Hi there,
The 2nd.Mate was a man called McConvill (as near as I can spell it) who was an interesting man. He must have been about 60 and had been a P.O.W. with the Italians in WW2. How I can not recall. He was well qualified with a Masters Certificate and seemed to float from job to job.
The Chief Mate was a Londoner as near as I remember and I simply can not remember his name.
I cant remember the 4th.Engineer I am afraid.
I think you had quite a voyage as I seem to remember the 2nd.Engineer putting you all on watch on/watch off. We had no such problems on the bridge. We sat in the sun!
The "Exporter" was a ship to remember as was her sister the "Importer" They were first designed as tankers for Athol Line and changed to bulk carriers during construction. They had later been jumboized to provide a sixth hold.
After that voyage I went home to finish my leave (and follow Scotland's fortunes in the World Cup in Germany. After that it was off to Trinidad to join the Sugar Carrier, almost brand new and great after the previous two.
Hard to think of where we were 40 years ago.
Sorry all this is a bit rambling.
George
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Old 31st March 2014, 17:14
keith humphreys keith humphreys is offline  
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Exporter

Hi George.
I do seem to remember now you have said,spending some time on a
couple of watches, I think it was the possibility of a major breakdown,
cant remember if there was another J/Eng on board to cover the other
six hours,i think i was doing 12/6, so maybe thats why i didn't see
much outside the ship,or for that matter maybe even you.
I did travel back to South Wales on the train with the Capt. He was
a good chap,was he the same with you.
I think I did nearly every voyage with good guys no real old time
Captains or Chiefs, you now the type,all mine were approachable
and fair, I know I left that ship having actually learnt something, stood me in good stead for my other ships, although they were of a more modern type.
What part of the country are you in.
Keep in touch.Regards
Keith.
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Old 1st April 2014, 13:03
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Hi Keith,
I really enjoyed my time at sea and although there were ships like the "Exporter" I don't think we realised just what a good job it was. The only reason I went ashore was that Sugar Lines had closed and I was not keen on working under foreign flags. Also I got quite a good job with T.N.T. where I could walk to work and be home every night of the year! None of this was planned, just how it happened.
According to Sugar Line galley radio life on the" Exporter" did not change after we left her. She went on a lengthy voyage which was described by one person as "worst voyage in history". I know that she went to the South Seas and one of the crew fell asleep under a coconut tree and a coconut fell on him. Before you laugh he had to be hospitalised!
From the deck point of view the big problem with the "Exporter" and her sister the "Importer" (I had just done 6 months on her before the "Exporter") was the hatches which were McGregor bot of a strange design. Each lid had to be pinned to the others which meant that the deck crew had to climb on the hatch comings of an empty hold to do this. Today they would have safety harnesses at the very least. Times change.
Regards,
George
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