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Old 30th August 2008, 09:34
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Short History and Flletlist Silver Line.
Source: Travel of the Tramps, twenty Tramp fleets Vol. III, N.L. Middlemiss, Shield Publication, 1992 and Miramar Shipindex.

The brothers Stanley and John Thompson formed a partmership in 1908 to act as managing owners of the St. Helens Steam Shipping Co., London with the SILVERBIRCH which was employed tramping. Other ships were purchased and in 1913 they entered into a contract with America-Levant Line to operate transatlantic services. This contract ran until 1930. In the 1920s, the company began managing ships for the Kerr SS Co., New York and operated a round the world service jointly with Prince Line. In 1930 Silver Line came to an agreement with the Java Pacific fleets of Rotterdamsche Lloyd and the Stoomvaart Maatschappij Nederland and their combined fleets took the name of Silver Java Pacific Co.

The company lost 11 ships during the second world war and in 1947 the management changed from the Thompson family to the Barraclough family. Under the new management, the company changed their policy from liner services to cargo and tramping work and their modern passenger / cargo liners were sold. In 1957 Silver Line became a fully owned subsidiary of Dene Line Ltd and took their funnel colours. Silver Line Ltd joined the Seabridge consortium in 1965 together with Hunting, Bibby, Bowring, Clarkson and Houlder Lines and operated bulk carriers. Silver Chemical Tankers Ltd was also set up in 1965 to operate in the coastal chemical and oil trades.
In 1971 Silver Line Ltd was acquired by Navcot (Shipping) Holdings Ltd but by 1982 were down to two bulk carriers and some small chemical tankers. Their last ship was sold to Panamanian owners in 1985.

Vessel Built Builder Years in Service Tons
Silverash (1) 1904 J.L. Thompson & Sons, Sunderland Ex Farringford, 1912 purchased from Charlton & Thompson Ltd, Sunderland, renamed Silverash, 6.10.1915 shelled and sunk by German submarine U.33 east of Malta on voyage Barry - Madras. 3,753
Silverash (2) 1918 Wm Hamilton & Co Ltd, Port Glasgow Ex Ardgowan, 1923 purchased from Lang & Fulton Ltd, Greenock renamed Silverash, 1925 sold to West Hartlepool S.N. Co. renamed Aspleyhall, 1932 sold to Continental Indies Shipping Co, Nova Scotia renamed Ezra, 1934 sold to Jugoslavenska Plovidba, Jugoslavia renamed Labud, 1940 torpedoed and sunk by German submarine U.32 of Fastnet. 5,334
Silverash (3) 1926 J.L. Thompson & Sons, Sunderland 1955 sold to N.V. Koninklijke Java-China Paketvaart Lijnen, Amsterdam renamed Tjisondari, 1957 scrapped at Hongkong. 5,299
Silveravon 1977 Mitsubishi H.I., Hiroshima 1978 transferred to Silverdee Shipping Ltd, London renamed Bandama, 1985 sold renamed Enarxis, 1988 sold renamed Trade Grace, 1994 sold renamed Golden Grace, 1998 sold renamed Santa Suria. 10,815
Silveray 1925 J.L. Thompson & Sons, Sunderland 4.2.1942 torpedoed and sunk by German submarine U.751 in position 43.54N 64.16W on voyage Liverpool - Halifax - New York with the loss of 8 lives. 4,535
Silverbeach 1962 Constructions Navales & Industrielles de la Mediterranee, La Seyne Ore Carrier, ex Norse Coral, ex Totem Star, 1964 purchased from Fulcrum Shipping Co. renamed Silverbeach, 1973 sold to Yick Fung Shipping Ltd, Somalia renamed Aegean Sea, 1986 scrapped. 11,276
Silverbeck 1960 Bartram & Sons Ltd., Sunderland 1965 sold to Jugoslavenska Oceanska Plovidba, Kotor, Yugoslavia renamed Durmitor, 1979 sold renamed Aspyr, 1982 sold renamed Ceylan Sailor, 1984 scrapped. 9,542
Silverbeech 1926 J.L. Thompson & Sons, Sunderland 28.3.1943 torpedoed and sunk by German submarine U.172 in position 25.30N 15.55W on voyage Liverpool – Lagos with the loss of 62 lives. 5,311
Silverbelle 1927 J.L. Thompson & Sons, Sunderland 22.9.1941 torpedoed and sunk by German submarine U.68 in position 25.45N 24.00W on voyage Durban - Freetown – Liverpool with no loss of life. 5,302
Silverbirch (1) 1905 J.L. Thompson & Sons, Sunderland Ex Wearmouth, 1911 purchased from Evan, Thompson & Co., London renamed Silverbirch, 1914 sold to A & A Callinicos, Ithaca renamed Salamis, 10.12.1916 captured by submarine and scuttled 3 days later. 3,638
Silverbirch (2) 1920 Bartram & Sons Ltd., Sunderland Ex Stonewall, 1923 purchased from Garland Steamship Corp, New York renamed Silverbirch, 1924 sold to West Hartlepool S.N. Co. renamed Ardenhall, 1936 sold to Kilvey Shipping Co, Swansea renamed Cefnbryn, 1936 sold to Jugoslavenska Plovidba, Jugoslavia renamed Caleb, 1939 sold to Norway renamed Vest, 1950 sold same name, 1951 renamed Siredal, 1954 sold same name, 1956 renamed Regulus, 1959 sold to Bowring & Curry, Germany renamed Ruth, 1959 scrapped. 5,073
Silverbriar 1948 J.L. Thompson & Sons, Sunderland 1952 sold to Cunard Line renamed Andria, 1963 sold to Taiwan, renamed Union Faith, 1969 lost by fire off New Orleans. 7,242
Silverbrook 1953 Smith's Dock Co., Southbank Tanker, 1963 sold to Olnedo Cia Nav, Greece renamed Manegina II, 1966 scrapped at Valencia. 11,276
Silverburn 1953 Wm Gray & Co Ltd, West Hartlepool 1958 sold to Scindia S.N. Co., Bombay renamed Jalamani, 1969 sold to Tolani Private Ltd, India renamed Prabhu Satram, 1976 scrapped at Bombay. 5,023
Silvercape 1967 Namura Shipbuilding Co, Osaka 1972 sold to Livatho Maritime Corp, Greece renamed Eftychia, 1977 sold renamed Krishnaraja, 1985 scrapped. 12,669
Silvercedar (1) 1907 R. Craggs & Sons Ltd., Middlesborough Ex Fitzpatrick, 1913 purchased from Burrell & Son, Glasgow renamed Silvercedar, 1916 sold to Brantingham S.S. Co., Newcastle renamed Norma Pratt, 16.3.1917 War loss. 4,416
Silvercedar (2) 1924 Wm Doxford & Sons, Sunderland 15.10.1941 torpedoed and sunk by German submarine U.553 in position 55.36N 29.57W on voyage Sydney N.S to Liverpool with the loss of 22 lives. 4,351
Silvercedar (3) 1943 Bethlehem-Fairfield Shipyards Inc., Baltimore, Maryland Launched as Melvil Dewey, completed as Samsacola built for the U.S. War Shipping Administration and bare boat chartered to the Ministry of War Transport, 1947 purchased from Ministry of Transport, London, renamed Silvercedar, 1949 sold to W. Thomson & Co., Edinburgh (Ben Line), renamed Benwyvis, 1955 sold to Rio del Castro Cia Armadora S.A., Liberia renamed Linda, 1959 sold to District Shipping Co. S.A., Liberia renamed Agia Irene, 1961 transferred to Greek registry, 1965 sold to Transocean Navigation Corporation, Liberia renamed Angelina, 1967 caught fire off Madras, salvaged and declared CTL. 7,176
Silverclyde 1970 Scott's Shipbuilding & Engineering Company, Greenock Ex Baknes, 1974 purchased from Nile SS Co. (J & J Denholm), London renamed Silverclyde, 1979 sold to Argo Shipping (Jersey) Ltd renamed Argo Clyde, 1988 sold renamed Fidelity Trust, 1989 sold renamed Tong Yee, 1993 scrapped at Shanghai. 11,523
Silvercove 1967 Namura Shipbuilding Co, Osaka 1978 sold to Fillia Enterprises, Greece renamed Mina, 1985 Amina, 1987 scrapped. 12,843
Silvercrag 1958 J. Laing & Sons Ltd, Sunderland Ore Carrier, 1970 sold to J. Jacobs Ltd, renamed Cherrywood, 1980 sold renamed Rio Victory, 1980 sold renamed Annbelle E, 1982 scrapped. 10,887
Silvercypress 1930 Harland & Wolff Ltd, Belfast 13.1.1937 beached on fire on Guimaras Island on voyage New York - Manila - Shanghai - Hong Kong, towed to Manila and sold to Japanese shipbreakers. 1939 repaired and sold to Kawasaki Kisen K.K., Kobe renamed Yasukawa Maru, 2.11.1944 bombed and sunk. 6,770
Silverdale 1952 Lithgows Ltd., Port Glasgow Tanker, 1962 sold to Andina Cia Nav, Greece renamed Ithaki, 1967 sold renamed Millspirit, 1969 scrapped at Hong Kong. 11,289
Silverdene 1956 J. Crown & Sons Ltd, Sunderland 1960 sold to Nigerian National Line, Lagos renamed El Kanemi, 1980 scrapped at Kaohsiung. 5,657
Silverdon 1973 Scott's Shipbuilding & Engineering Company, Greenock Launched as Bravenes but completed as Silverdon, 1977 sold to China Ocean Shipping Co., China renamed Fei Cui Hai, 7.2.1998 foundered. 22,906
Silvereagle 1970 Cammell Laird & Co. Ltd, Birkenhead 1981 sold to Yau Fook Shipping Co., Hong Kong renamed Yau Fook, 1986 sold renamed Xipoint, 1988 sold renamed Sulong, 1988 wrecked and declared total loss. 4,039
Silvereid 1969 Hall, Russell, Port Glasgow 1975 sold to Wm. Brandts (Leasing), Ltd renamed Eloiseid, 1981 scrapped. 1,596
Silverelm 1924 Wm Doxford & Sons, Sunderland 1946 sold to Hans Fr.Grann, Oslo renamed Grado, 1951 sold to E. Rickertsen renamed Kolonius, 1960 scrapped at Osaka. 4,351
Silverfalcon 1966 Lodose Varf, Lodose 1980 sold to Altanin Shipping Co. not renamed, 1988 sold renamed Sandpiper, 1992 renamed Silverfalcon, 1994 sold renamed Didi, 1996 sold renamed Ferman Silver, 24.4.1998 wrecked and later scrapped. 1,310
Silverfell 1957 J. Crown & Sons Ltd, Sunderland 1963 sold to Corporacion Peruana de Vapores, Callao, Peru renamed Rio Santa, 1970 Petunia, 1980 scrapped at Kaohsiung. 7,843
Silverfir 1924 Wm Doxford & Sons, Sunderland 16.3.1941 sunk by German battleship GNEISENAU or SCHARNHORST in position 43.40N 43.57W on voyage Manchester - New York. 4,347
Silverfjord 1972 Uljanik, Pula 1983 sold to Integrity Shipping Co., Hong Kong renamed Chung Shing, 1987 Silverfjord. 20,747
Silverforce 1957 J. Laing & Sons Ltd, Sunderland 1964 sold to Scindia S.N. Co., Bombay renamed Jalagouri, 1981 sold to Jai Doot Shipping Ltd, India renamed Jaldoot Ashok, 1983 scrapped. 8,058
Silverforth 1969 Lithgows Ltd., Port Glasgow Ex Bellnes, 1974 purchased from H. Clarkson & Co., London renamed Silverforth, 1978 sold to Cordoba Shipping Co., Greece renamed Albaforth, 1982 sold renamed Kaptan Yusuf Kalkavan, 1986 scrapped. 11,198
Silverguava 1927 J. Laing & Sons Ltd, Sunderland 1952 sold to Fratelli Grimaldi, Naples renamed Orsa, 1964 deleted from Register. 5,294
Silverharrier 1970 Hall, Russell, Port Glasgow 1980 sold to Univan Ship Management, Hong Kong renamed Kyrgo, 1981 sold renamed Batu. 1989 sold renamed Deniz Ay. 4,622
Silverhawk 1969 Cammell Laird & Co. Ltd, Birkenhead 1985 sold to Sea Cheer Investment Trust, Panama renamed Philchem, 1988 sold renamed Stainless Duke, 1997 scrapped at Aliaga. 6,771
Silverhazel 1927 J.L. Thompson & Sons, Sunderland 9.11.1935 wrecked San Bernadino Island, Philippines on voyage Vancouver - Bombay. 5,302
Silverhow 1965 J. Laing & Sons Ltd, Sunderland Ore Carrier, 1965 renamed Tower Bridge, 1970 sold to A/S Ivarans Rederi, Norway renamed Sneholt, 1974 sold renamed Providence, 1980 sold renamed Gen. M. Makleff, 1987 sold renamed Enera, 1988 scrapped. 22,367
Silverisle 1960 J. Crown & Sons Ltd, Sunderland 1965 sold to Metcalfe Shipping Co., West Hartlepool renamed Industria, 1974 sold renamec Al Faraj, 1980 sold renamed Annajm, 1983 scrapped. 7,744
Silverkestrel 1965 Ekerats, Norrkoping 1975 sold to Broadbray Ltd renamed Carrick Kestrel, 1987 sold renamed Goldcrest, 1992 Silverkestrel, 1994 Goldcrest, 1998 sold renamed SW Runner, 2004 scrapped. 497
Silverkite 1976 Kalmar Varv A/B, Kalmar Ex Cora, 1979 purchased from Kalmar Varv A/B, Sweden renamed Silverkite, 1982 sold to Westtank Marine Ltd, Singapore renamed Westlake, 1985 sold renamed Giulia Berlingieri, 1989 Jacqueline, 1989 sold renamed Chemical Voyager, 1991 Jacqueline, 1994 Ermes, 2003 Hermes, 2005 scrapped at Alang. 1,599
Silverlake 1958 J. Laing & Sons Ltd, Sunderland 1964 sold to Scindia S.N. Co., Bombay renamed Jalaganga, 1979 scrapped. 8,058
Silverlarch 1924 Swan Hunter & Wigham Richardson Ltd., Newcastle 1947 sold to Angfartygs A/B Bore, Abo, Finland renamed Bore VIII, 1958 scrapped. 5,122
Silverlaurel 1939 J.L. Thompson & Sons, Sunderland 18.12.1944 torpedoed and sunk by German submarine U.486 in position 50.07N 04.40W on voyage Duala - Falmouth – Hull with no loss of life. 6,142
Silverleaf 1963 J.L. Thompson & Sons, Sunderland Ore Carrier, 1968 sold to Marcomando Cia Nav S.A, Panama (Greek flag) renamed Pleias, 1981 sold renamed Spyros G, 1985 scrapped. 10,736
Silvermain 1970 Uljanik, Pula 1982 sold to Lacido Shipping Ltd, Hong Kong renamed Shirogane, 1990 sold renamed Silver Spirit, 1994 sold renamed Eurobulker II, 2002 scrapped at Alang. 18,799
Silvermaple (1) 1927 J. Laing & Sons Ltd, Sunderland 26.2.1944 torpedoed and sunk by German submarine U.66 in position 04.44N 03.20W on voyage Bathurst – Takoradi with the loss of 6 lives. 5,302
Silvermaple (2) 1945 Bethlehem-Fairfield Shipyards Inc., Baltimore, Maryland Ex Colorado Springs Victory built for the U.S. War Shipping Administration and bare boat chartered to the Ministry of War Transport, 1947 purchased Ministry of Transport, London, renamed Silvermaple, 1952 sold to Borges Rederi A/s, Tonsberg, Norway renamed Sun Karen, 1953 rebuilt to 8,141 g.t. bulk ore carrier, 1963 sold to Concord Navigation Coirp, Liberia renamed Concordia, 1970 scrapped in Taiwan. 7,469
Silvermerlin 1968 Lodose Varf, Lodose 1980 sold to Altanin Shipping.Co. not renamed, 1988 sold renamed Sandmartin, 1992 Silvermerlin, 1994 sold renamed Arun, 1996 sold renamed Ferman Gold, 2001 scrapped at Aliaga. 1,259
Silverness 1977 Mitsubishi H.I., Hiroshima 1978 transferred to Silverdee Shipping Ltd, London renamed Taabo, 1985 sold renamed Agios Andreas, 1989 sold renamed Mostween 5, 1993 renamed Napier Star, 1994 renamed Mostween 5, 1994 sold renamed Rallia, . 10,815
Silveroak 1944 J.L. Thompson & Sons, Sunderland 1955 chartered to Port Line renamed Port Stephens, 1956 sold to W. Thomson & Co. Edinburgh (Ben Line), renamed Benvannoch, 1969 scrapped at Kaohsiung. 9,487
Silverosprey 1970 Cammell Laird & Co. Ltd, Birkenhead 1985 sold to Bellestrand Enterprises, Hong Kong renamed Crazy Horse, 1984 sold renamed Iran Pasdar. 4,039
Silverpalm 1929 J.L. Thompson & Sons, Sunderland 9.6.1941 torpedoed and sunk by German submarine U.101 in position 51.00N 26.00W on voyage Calcutta - Freetown – Glasgow with the loss of 68 lives. 6,373
Silverpelerin 1973 Krögerwerft GmbH, Rendsburg 1980 sold to Amar Line, Saudi Arabia renamed Al Khlood, 1980 renamed Arctic Tar, 1995 sold renamed Arctic Star, 1998 sold renamed Tamar, 2003 sold renamed Tamar I, 2003 sold renamed Alfaw, 2008 scrapped at Gadani Beach 4,474
Silverpine 1924 Swan Hunter & Wigham Richardson Ltd., Newcastle 5.12.1940 torpedoed and sunk by Italian submarine ARGO in position 54.14N 18.08W on voyage Liverpool - New York with the loss of 35 lives. 5,122
Silverplane 1948 J.L. Thompson & Sons, Sunderland 1951 sold to Cunard Line renamed Alsatia, 1963 sold to Taiwan, renamed Union Freedom, 1977 scrapped. 7,242
Silverpoint 1957 Bartram & Sons Ltd., Sunderland 1965 sold to Atlanska Plovidba, Dubrovnik, Yugoslavia renamed Hercegovina, 1976 sold renamed Ilok, 1980 sold renamed Myrtos, 1982 scrapped. 8,833
Silversand 1958 J. Laing & Sons Ltd, Sunderland Ore Carrier, 1969 sold to Bishopsgate Shipping Co. 1974 sold to Cia Alecos, Greece renamed Alecos15.9.1975 wrecked at Tarifa. 10,887
Silversandal 1930 Harland & Wolff Ltd, Belfast 1954 sold to Moller Line (UK) Ltd, London renamed Blyth Trader, 1958 laid up, 1960 scrapped at Hong Kong. 6,770
Silversea (1) 1963 Constructions Navales & Industrielles de la Mediterranee, La Seyne Ore Carrier, ex Totem Queen, 1964 purchased from Fulcrum Shipping Co. renamed Silversea, 1973 sold to Yick Fung Shipping Ltd, Somalia renamed Coral Sea, 1977 sold renamed New Coral Sea, 1986 scrapped. 11,276
Silversea (2) 1967 Moss Vaerft, Moss Ex Columbus, 1979 purchased from I/S Langskip, Norway renamed Silversea, 1983 sold to Barlee Marine Corp, Panama renamed Bargas, 1993 sold renamed Carigas, . 2,759
Silvershore 1960 J. Laing & Sons Ltd, Sunderland Ore Carrier, ex Aldersgate, 1969 purchased from Bishopsgate Shipping Co. renamed Silvershore, 1975 sold to Coralstone Shipping Corp, Liberia renamed Puerto Madryn, 1977 sold renamed Danube, 1984 scrapped. 12,718
Silversky 1967 Moss Vaerft, Moss Ex Marco Polo, 1967 purchased from I/S Langskip, Norway renamed Silversky, 1983 sold to Barlee Marine Corp, Panama renamed Leegas, 1986 scrapped. 2,758
Silvertarn 1947 Wm Gray & Co Ltd, West Hartlepool Ex Riodene, 1951 transferred from Dene Shipping Co. renamed Silvertarn, 1954 sold to Bharat Line, Bombay renamed Bharatbhushan, 4.1.1970 wrecked. 4,882
Silverteak 1930 Harland & Wolff Ltd, Belfast 1954 sold to Cie de Navegacion del Plata S.A, Panama renamed Gardigan, 1960 scrapped. 6,770
Silvertweed 1970 Scott's Shipbuilding & Engineering Company, Greenock Ex Binsnes, 1974 purchased from H. Clarkson & Co., London renamed Silvertweed, 1979 sold to Argo Shipping (Jersey) Ltd renamed Argo Tweed, 1982 sold renamed Dennis Carrier, 1985 scrapped. 11,824
Silverwalnut 1930 Harland & Wolff Ltd, Belfast 1954 sold to Cie de Navegacion del Plata S.A, Panama renamed Samundar, 1960 scrapped at Osaka. 6,770
Silverweir 1961 J.L. Thompson & Sons, Sunderland 1969 sold to Saerdna Shipping Co., Greece renamed Agios Antonios, 18.10.1973 aground at Coondapor and lost. 10,895
Silverwillow 1930 J.L. Thompson & Sons, Sunderland 30.10.1942 torpedoed and sunk by German submarine U.409 in position 35.08N 16.44W on voyage Lagos - Freetown – Liverpool with the loss of 6 lives. 6,373
Silveryew 1930 J.L. Thompson & Sons, Sunderland 30.5 1941 torpedoed and sunk by German submarine U.106 in position 16.42N 25.29W on voyage Calcutta - Capetown - Oban – London with the loss of 1 life. 6,373
Silver Bridge 1972 Sumitomo Heavy Industries, Uraga 1979 sold to North American Transportation Associates renamed Cast Gull, 1986 sold renamed Goldstar, 1989 sold renamed Yugometal, 1992 Bulk Star, 1994 Iolcos Flame, 1997 scrapped at Chittagong. 79,316
Tower Bridge See Silverhow.

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Old 30th August 2008, 12:03
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Do any of you Silver Line men remember Johnny Walker??
A true gentlrmen.
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I sailed on the Silverdon 1-9-77 to 13-2-78 . Handed over to the new Chinese owners in Rotterdam . Spey Bridge 16-5-78 to 25-7-78 , 29-5-80 to 10-11-80 and 7-3-81 to 15-7-81 , Seto Bridge/Arapaho- 28-9-88 to 1-2-79 .I was there for the name change in Singapore (Dec 78) Also 20-5-79 to 11-8-79 and 21-12-79 to 30- 6-80 , Erskine Bridge 10-9-81 to 26-1-82, and finally Almak 9-4-82 to 9-8-82.Then made redundant . Also did a prolonged drydock on the Silvereagle in Rotterdam in 1979 - 23-10-79 to 4-12-79 -as my wifes first trip ,this was baptism by fire !!
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Sailed with Captain Ronnie Safe on Binsnes (Jebsens). A fine chap who didn't suffer fools gladly. Came through the ranks and never forgot it either.

One of the old school.

BW

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I too sailed with Ronnie Safe several times. I was 2/E on the "Argo Clyde" ex Binsnes or Baknes, I cannot just recall and "Taabo" ex Silverness (or Silveravon, again, memory) and I was C/E with him for several voyages on the managed "Carchester". He could be quite difficult but was always a gentleman, arranging flowers to be delivered to joining wives. Ronnie and I became friends and it was sad to see at his funeral that there were only a handful of people attending and my wife and I the only ex colleagues
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I too sailed with Ronnie Safe several times. I was 2/E on the "Argo Clyde" ex Binsnes or Baknes, I cannot just recall and "Taabo" ex Silverness (or Silveravon, again, memory) and I was C/E with him for several voyages on the managed "Carchester". He could be quite difficult but was always a gentleman, arranging flowers to be delivered to joining wives. Ronnie and I became friends and it was sad to see at his funeral that there were only a handful of people attending and my wife and I the only ex colleagues
I was only with him for 7 months on Binsnes and would like to remember Ronnie as he was - a mans man.

Such a very sad end to his life. Will light a candle in his memory on Saturday.

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I was only with him for 7 months on Binsnes and would like to remember Ronnie as he was - a mans man.

Such a very sad end to his life. Will light a candle in his memory on Saturday.

Bw
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How did he fall from his perch.I sailed with him with Ronnie is the late 60's. I don't know how he was with the engineers but with the Mate's he was pretty tough.

He used to have tape recorder in the top draw of his desk.

By the way, I understand why folks use alias on normal forums but isn't the whole concept here to regonise each other ?
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Welcome aboard Malcolm.
We're really quite a shy lot but it doesn't take long, alias or otherwise, to work out that you've sailed with someone.
Carry on exploring and you'll find people you recognise from their posts and ships.
Enjoy the rest of the trip.
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Hi

I did my time with Silver Line - Deck Cadet to 2nd Mate.

I'm Pete Jones - was at Cardiff (Reardon Smith's) Nautical College. I left about 1979 ish.

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Hi pete,If my memory serves me right you and john cochrane got tatts in Rotterdam while I chickened out,I still dont like pain! chris silverfjord.('72 and '73)
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Come on you old Silver Liners. There are lots of people whom we sailed with who are cworth a comment. Cap Ronnie Safe (the only Master serving with the MN who had a certificate to say that he was sane!!!!, his words) C/E Albert Trotter, Cap Don Troop (was he ever sober?) Albert RN the Chief Steward, Tommy Wilson, another chief steward, Billy Graham, no not that Billy Graham, this one an engineer. lets get this up and running
there were so many characters,charlie leong who went beetroot red if you spiked his drink,a lovely guy though. I was told dont play cards with bob ronald or argue with matty jack,i did neither! yorky thompson, pete mangleshot, not strictly silver line but he seemed to be on every ship I joined! Sam the cook,was it billy gardener who was running up and down the deck at 3 in the morning when the mackems won the cup?Roy another bosun, but where was his butterfly tatt? Moorcroft the old man who lived near to dave buckland in cardiff.colin shelton who bent the line to cut my shoulder length hair,on one side only though.Ronnie nicholson, john wright,john cochrane,joe duffy and bob sharp,joe,bob and myself were followed around shanghai zoo by the locals, we were a novelty! and where else do you go to in shanghai.
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there were so many characters,charlie leong who went beetroot red if you spiked his drink,a lovely guy though. I was told dont play cards with bob ronald or argue with matty jack,i did neither! yorky thompson, pete mangleshot, not strictly silver line but he seemed to be on every ship I joined! Sam the cook,was it billy gardener who was running up and down the deck at 3 in the morning when the mackems won the cup?Roy another bosun, but where was his butterfly tatt? Moorcroft the old man who lived near to dave buckland in cardiff.colin shelton who bent the line to cut my shoulder length hair,on one side only though.Ronnie nicholson, john wright,john cochrane,joe duffy and bob sharp,joe,bob and myself were followed around shanghai zoo by the locals, we were a novelty! and where else do you go to in shanghai.
My goodness, Charley Leong, theres a blast from the past. I last sailed with Charley, when I was C/E on the Arapaho. He was 3/E and Joe Townes the 2/E.
Another character to conjure with, Paul Malone and "Crackers Malarkey". I sailed with Matty Jack in the 60's on the Silvercrag, and met Bob Ronald on several occaisions. 2/e's Dave Whitter and Dave Arrowsmith and the well named "Prince of Darkness" 3/E Tony Blackwood, evoke good memories.
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Robbie 1954, are you sure you found the "Clyde" fun?? I was 2/E when she was handed over to Greek owners in Karachi and I found her anything but fun.
She must have been the only vessel to experience "bump starting" of a main engine, and the "tie breaking" system for the shaft alternators was something else. The cranes, and I use that term guardedly were from another planet. The ER skylights were permanently off because it was impossible to breathe in the engine room with them on. To quote Cap Tuddenham she was an accident waiting to happen and that he was in command of a bomb. A great crowd of lads made up for the hardships, but they would agree, she wasn't fun
I was being ironic!
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I was being ironic!
I could'nt agree more.
I was on the Clyde as the Baknes,I was never involved in pulling as many units at sea on any ship, other than maybe its sister the Tweed, those nightmare Paxman gennies still send shudders through me.
On a brighter note the ship did take me to Shanghai just as China began to open up in 1974 and the place that left an everlasting memory, Capetown.
As the 4/E I spent the afternoon taking on Bunkers in Capetown, a Saturday and 1/2 day closing, whilst the Toon played in the semi final of the cup (I think I spent 1/2 my time glued to the radio),then expected to get back to pay off for the final,2 weeks anchor at Sceczin in Poland put paid to that.
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I was a nav cadet with Silver LIne in the mid 70s and sailed with them until 1989. Does anybody remember me the name is Tony Foster?
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Gents,
Its been good to read your replies to my intial post, and several of you have reminded me of some of my old shipmates and ships of the past. It would be good to hear more from some of my old mates.
For what it is worth, below are the ships i sailed, starting 1976 and finishing in 1984.
Alva Star; Siverfjord, Spey Bridge, Sivereagle, Taabo, Eden Bridge, Carisle, Siverfalcon, Siverosprey, Siversky, Bandama, Algol (Fire 1982), Alva Sea and Almak.
Some of the ships, i sailed several times on them.
I'm very interested in hearing from any who sailed on the afore mentioned vessels.
Brgds.
Captain Vaughan Williams. MNI
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Old 2nd November 2008, 23:36
chris thompson195 chris thompson195 is offline  
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Capts Johnny Walker & Whitelaw. Anyone remember?
Harry Whitelaw I am informed is still alive still living in North shields and still drinking in the Nautilus although not as often as he used to. A lad I work with,his ex in laws live next door to Harry,the mother used to dred Harry coming home,the father and Harry were permanently on the drink!!
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chris
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Old 9th November 2008, 14:52
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Hello shipmates

I've just been reading comments posted on the Silverline site (using my son's computer) and have recognised many names from my colourful past!!!!
I'm long retired (coming up to the big 80), but my memory is still as sharp as a whisky and water. If anyone wants to pick my brains drop a reply.
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Old 9th November 2008, 16:43
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Welcome aboard Harry, I joined the Chelsea Bridge as 2Engin Aioi, just after you had that escapade in Singapore, did you ever get the name of the ship that hit you. Ian Matherson is on this site I am sure will remember him.
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Old 11th November 2008, 13:11
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sailed on silverline chemical tankers 70 t0 79 pelerin,osprey,eagle,eid and alice redfield. osprey was lengthened to change gross tonnage from 4039.30 to 5112.41. the accommodation was also superberly upgradated. conversion was carried out by haphag lloyd at bremerhaven.
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Old 11th November 2008, 14:15
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I've just been reading comments posted on the Silverline site (using my son's computer) and have recognised many names from my colourful past!!!!
I'm long retired (coming up to the big 80), but my memory is still as sharp as a whisky and water. If anyone wants to pick my brains drop a reply.
I have heard your name from many silverline mates, john coyle original from south shields, which is where I live. I was on silver chemical tankers, albert trotter, yorkie thomason, lew burfitt [right now] rollo wakenham, norman evans, jim staines. Semi retired myself only work three months a year if the money is good feel free to contact me Iam in the local phone book just look under j. w.child.

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Old 11th November 2008, 22:33
Malcolm Metcalf Malcolm Metcalf is offline  
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I've just been reading comments posted on the Silverline site (using my son's computer) and have recognised many names from my colourful past!!!!
I'm long retired (coming up to the big 80), but my memory is still as sharp as a whisky and water. If anyone wants to pick my brains drop a reply.
Hey Harry
how you doing, Malcolm Metcalf, 2 nd mate of the Aldersgate, along with C/O Charlie Forth and 3/0 Cherry Lewis.

Glad to hear you're doing well, I'm still in Vancouver, as is Cherry Lewis ! Often wonder what happens to all the BOT acquaintances I sailed with ! Beryle still doing well.

Take Care

MM
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Old 12th November 2008, 10:33
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Hey Harry
how you doing, Malcolm Metcalf, 2 nd mate of the Aldersgate, along with C/O Charlie Forth and 3/0 Cherry Lewis.

Glad to hear you're doing well, I'm still in Vancouver, as is Cherry Lewis ! Often wonder what happens to all the BOT acquaintances I sailed with ! Beryle still doing well.

Take Care

MM
Hi Malcolm
Good to hear from you, It's been a lot of years. Sad to say Beryl passed away in march of this year following a long illness. Would have been married 55 years this year.
Hope you are ok. Are you retired? I retired properly in 1995 when Beryl had her stroke. Whatever happened to Charlie Forth?
Looking through this site and reading the comments (which mention many names from the past) has bought back many memories most good, some bad!

Take care
Harry
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Old 12th November 2008, 22:56
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Hi Malcolm
Good to hear from you, It's been a lot of years. Sad to say Beryl passed away in march of this year following a long illness. Would have been married 55 years this year.
Hope you are ok. Are you retired? I retired properly in 1995 when Beryl had her stroke. Whatever happened to Charlie Forth?
Looking through this site and reading the comments (which mention many names from the past) has bought back many memories most good, some bad!

Take care
Harry
Yeah sure makes you think, as you say some good times and some not so good. Yeah I'm retired now, still in Vancouver. I occasionally get back to the UK, my son funny enough moved from Vancouver to England, Chelmsford so I attended his wedding over there last year. I had a drive down to Nth Shields, all the places I new have been demolished ( The Jungle LOL ) about the only thing that seems familiar is the N & S Shields Piers and the Groyne ( remember Johnny Walker nearly putting the 'Sand on the Groyne one trip. MN Hotel is now apartment, I went up to the S.Shields Marine & Tech and asked if they has an alumni, they asked ... what's that :-)

Mike Smith passed through Vancouver on his retirement trip around the World, wife in tow, so a little light on the beer :-) so Del and I took Mike out for supper.

Ex Silver Line guys Dick Chappell, Paul Lewis, Andy Bradley (3/E) live out here although I rarely see them Roy Harrison moved to Ontario.

Mel Crawford was Master on one of our ships for a while and Dia Bowen passed through some years ago, I had lunch with him. I still exchange Xmas cards with Harry Lawson ( pilot in the Bristol Channel)

The one recurring memory of the Aldersgate in going through the Dover Straights with a coaster saying on the VHF he was on fire and we looked and looked but never did see him in the fog. I believe the the Dover RNLI found him eventually. We were on our way down to Rio and in a bit of a hurry. Man you could have a good time in Brazil in those days

Take Care
malcolm
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Old 23rd November 2008, 15:01
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Yeah sure makes you think, as you say some good times and some not so good. Yeah I'm retired now, still in Vancouver. I occasionally get back to the UK, my son funny enough moved from Vancouver to England, Chelmsford so I attended his wedding over there last year. I had a drive down to Nth Shields, all the places I new have been demolished ( The Jungle LOL ) about the only thing that seems familiar is the N & S Shields Piers and the Groyne ( remember Johnny Walker nearly putting the 'Sand on the Groyne one trip. MN Hotel is now apartment, I went up to the S.Shields Marine & Tech and asked if they has an alumni, they asked ... what's that :-)

Mike Smith passed through Vancouver on his retirement trip around the World, wife in tow, so a little light on the beer :-) so Del and I took Mike out for supper.

Ex Silver Line guys Dick Chappell, Paul Lewis, Andy Bradley (3/E) live out here although I rarely see them Roy Harrison moved to Ontario.

Mel Crawford was Master on one of our ships for a while and Dia Bowen passed through some years ago, I had lunch with him. I still exchange Xmas cards with Harry Lawson ( pilot in the Bristol Channel)

The one recurring memory of the Aldersgate in going through the Dover Straights with a coaster saying on the VHF he was on fire and we looked and looked but never did see him in the fog. I believe the the Dover RNLI found him eventually. We were on our way down to Rio and in a bit of a hurry. Man you could have a good time in Brazil in those days

Take Care
malcolm


Hi Malcolm
You've rattled my braincells and made me remember things I'd long forgotten! I remember many of the names you've mentioned. Do you remember Mal Virgee who sailed as second mate on the Aldersagate (Mike Smith was master and I was Chief Officer). I am in regular contact with him. He married an american girl and lives in active retirement in Los Angeles, following a long career as a ship's surveyor also in LA.
I sill enjoy a pint (or two ) down on North Shields fish Quay, watching the ships coming and going (Sad Aren't I).
When I eventually retired from "seagoing duties" I was lucky enough to get a job with Tyne Port Control before Beryl had her first minor stroke.
It would be nice if some of the names from the past got in touch via the email. I've seen Ian Matheson's name mentioned. Is he on this forum under a different name? He was chief officer with me on the Tower Bridge. I seem to remember getting well beaten of a Russian ship's crew in Vancouver and both crews getting well popped after the match, despite the fact they had a commisar watching over us and their stewardesses!

Take care (more memories are coming to mind already)

Harry
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Old 28th November 2008, 15:48
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Hi,
I joined Silver Line as Eng. Cadet in 1978. Did college time at Reardon Smith until 1980. Sailed on Taabo and Silverosprey and then back to college in South Shields for final year. Was made redundant in 1983 but if I had my time over would do it again.
Can't remember many shipmates names but Capt Don Troop was one on the Taabo and my 2nd Engineer was a chap called Tony Green from Newcastle. Had a third from Sunderland too, so many wind ups between them including gluing his flip flops to the deck outside his cabin after a long night in the bar. One of the funniest things I've seen was him trying to figure out (with a hangover) why he couldn't walk after putting them on.

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