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Old 6th December 2005, 20:36
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This just gets more mysterious. The USCG sent me a brief report stating she had been involved in an "incident" but would or could not provide any details. Strange they admit to an "incident" but then don't provide any details, what could they possibly gain by being so coy? Why mention it at all and then clam up, surely better to say nothing than arouse our curiosity all the more, sure has me foxed. The truth is out there but where are Mulder and Scully when you need them?
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Maybe they didn't say anything because the incident is still pending in court awaiting a decision on who was at fault. Just a thought.
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Texaco Maracaibo

I am in the process of copying the photocopy receievd from USCG. It is an awful copy but I will post it nonetheless, for curiosity's sake.

Paul, I am fair- to- middling in Spanish so will try to take a look through any Venezuelan archives.BUT if anybody finds anything in Spanish on her then please bring it to my attention!

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Think the reason there is so little info on the vessel and the incident is (if my memory
is still correct) that there was no spill , no tanks were ruptured , there was no
environmental problems.
As I said in #13 , the main interest generated at the time was the manner in which
the incident occured and not the aftermath of grounding. In fact I'm not sure that
she really grounded , think she just made bottom contact due to silting /lack of
dredging , something along these lines. Pilots /port authorities blamed each other and
thats what made the news at the time.

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Think the reason there is so little info on the vessel and the incident is (if my memory
is still correct) that there was no spill , no tanks were ruptured , there was no
environmental problems.
As I said in #13 , the main interest generated at the time was the manner in which
the incident occured and not the aftermath of grounding. In fact I'm not sure that
she really grounded , think she just made bottom contact due to silting /lack of
dredging , something along these lines. Pilots /port authorities blamed each other and
thats what made the news at the time.

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JC,

I think you could be correct there, although, I had a notion that she got stuck on the putty for a tide or two!
Let's hope you are correct or we will all be losing sleep over Texaco Maracaibo!
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I just received by LR this answer to my query:

"Dear Mr De Marzo,
Thank you for your email of 4th December which has been passed to me.
Our records do not show the 1965 built tanker being wrecked in 1965, however if you want further details of the ship and her final fate, our research fee is £125.00. If you want me to proceed with the research, just let me know so I can send you our credit card form to fill in and sign.
Further details re a casualty involving her may be available from www.informa.com as they records all types of casualties whereas we only show total losses.
Regards,
Anne Cowne
Information Officer
Corporate Communications"

So two things are certain:
1) the ship survived
2) the curiosity about her final fate is no worth £125...at least for a Genoese! (we are considered the Scots of Italy...)

I tried also the link suggested by LR, but the query gave no results about "Texaco Maracaibo". I sent a request for info by e-mail to informa.com, and I'm waiting for an answer.

All this difficulty in finding info is suspect.
Sure that the "grounding" wasn't an collision with some military subject, maybe a submerged sub o something like that?
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I doubt that you will get anything from Informa (formerly Lloyds of London Press)

If they had recorded a casualty for the vessel, it would be mentioned in their publication 'Maritime Casualties 1963-1996'. It's not in there, so I wouldn't bother.

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Gentlemen,

Did we ever find out what the story behind her grounding was ??.

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Ahoy John,

Nope.....Questions to the Coast-Guard,etcetera were not answered or not known, still hoping that someone will come up.
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I found the following on a Coastguard website

Name: TEXACO MARACAIBO

Year of Disaster: 1965

Place of Disaster:

Vessel/s Involved: supertanker

Photo: yes

Official Records: no

News Articles: no

Topic:

More Info:

It seems the oil companies can keep these events out of the press.
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Did we ever find out what the story behind her grounding was ??.

JC
John,

I've merged the two Texaco Maracaibo threads for the sake of continuity.

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I am in the process of copying the photocopy receievd from USCG. It is an awful copy but I will post it nonetheless, for curiosity's sake.
Do you still have a copy of it? I'd be quite interested to have a look, if that's at all possible.

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Hi all, Just read that Texaco Maracaibo was involved with "MV Grandcamp" liberty ship.And "MV Highflyer" c-2 cargo vessel. 1965. I think it was a collision.
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Hi all, Just read that Texaco Maracaibo was involved with "MV Grandcamp" liberty ship.And "MV Highflyer" c-2 cargo vessel. 1965. I think it was a collision.
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Barney,
Well done, where did you find this information?
Does your source give a location and did Texaco Maracaibo ground as a result of the incident?
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Old 4th August 2006, 15:48
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Hi all, Just read that Texaco Maracaibo was involved with "MV Grandcamp" liberty ship.And "MV Highflyer" c-2 cargo vessel. 1965. I think it was a collision.
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Barney the Incident you are speaking about resulted in 1947 heres a paragraph from a webpage. Its way before the Maracibo

Hugh Stephens tells how, on April 16th, 1947, two Liberty ships docked at Texas City on the Houston ship channel -- the Grandcamp and the High Flyer. Both were loading cargoes of that same fertilizer. The Grandcamp held 2300 tons -- the High Flyer, 1000 tons. The rest of High Flyer's cargo was sulfur.

At 8:00 that morning, a small fire broke out in one of the Grandcamp's holds. The ship master tried to suffocate the fire by closing the hatches. He didn't want to use water for fear he'd damage his cargo. At 8:30, the hatches blew and, observers said, a beautiful orange smoke began pouring out. Finally firemen began hosing down the hold. But, by now, the water just vaporized.

Heres another webpage about the Grandcamp

http://www.local1259iaff.org/disaster.html
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Ok! Thanks Neville.
So, we are still none the wiser regarding Texaco Maracaibo's incident.
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Hi Gulpers and Gdynia . I'm sorry I was missled, I thought I was on to something, but i read it wrong. Check this, you will see why.
http://www.answers.com/tanker+ship+t...wp=12&method=2

I was also missled by this:
http://www.answers.com/ship+mv+grand...wp=12&method=2

Gdynia, thanks for the web page. What a terrible disaster, its hard to imagine something like that could take so many lives, and do so much damage.
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Barney,

Thanks for trying. Shame, I thought you were on to something there!
Got to agree, the url's you posted are a bit misleading.
Oh well, keep looking.
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For some unknown reason all articles on this vessel seem to be blocked
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This sure remains a mystery. Wish I could remember where I read the article
but of course it's a long time ago.

In the 60's , Texaco were heavily involved in drilling,testing in the lake and were
getting a lot of hassle from environmental groups , so could well be that the
incident is "forgotten" for political reasons. It happened and can still remember
reading about the reasons . Pilots had also been trained by Tecaco in the states.

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Sorry , should have been;
"trained by Texaco in the states".

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*all* articles?
Take the time to do an internet search for the vessel and see how many hits you get. Ive access to the most upto date shipping computers and cannot get a lead.
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Found another Texaco Vessel involved in a collision but still not our mystery vessel

The first accident occurred on 11th January 1971 when the Cypriot registered vessel PARACAS, 10,000 tonnes, collided with the Panamanian registered tanker TEXACO CARRIBEAN, 14,000 tonnes.

The TEXACO CARRIBEAN exploded and broke in two, with the loss of eight lives. The after section remained afloat for some time before sinking, while the bow section was submerged just below the surface. The PARACAS was badly damaged and towed to Hamburg for repairs. The following day the German registered vessel BRANDENBURG, 3,000 tonnes, struck a section of the TEXACO CARRIBEAN and within two miles capsized and sank with the loss of 21 crew members.
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I've also run into a brick wall trying to find out what happened. I've used just about every source I had during my time in H&W but zilch. As Neville said just a wall of silence. It's all very strange..........something happened that's for sure.........but WHAT??? and why such secrecy.?
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