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Old 8th June 2019, 19:32
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All,
My first sextant was a three circle, a Heath if memory serves, sold to me by Captain Bulmer on my first trip as an Uncert. Third Mate in MV Trelyon.
I swapped it for a Freiburger in HK it cost £90-00 I sold it on to an aspiring Navigator some twenty years later, alas the arrival of GPS saw it off.
It is just now a talking point at his home after dinner parties......

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Old 8th June 2019, 20:50
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Found a Cooke's catalogue circa about 1960
Could that be Graham Botrill in the picture ???
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Old 8th June 2019, 23:19
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Could that be Graham Botrill in the picture ???
Memory not so good after sixty years but the name Geoff Hindley comes to mind.
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I was standing on deck of the Navua in Auckland talking to the just joined new third Mate,. Up the Gangway came the master Andy Keyworth, ex first mate of the Parmir and a stickler for everything nautical .
I said "good afternoon Captain"
He replied then said to the 3rd mate " you must be the new 3rd, do you have a sextant"
"No Sir, but never mind I will use the ship's "
The brusque reply was " No you won't , get one before we sail"
That saw the third chasing the sparkle looking for a sub to finance a cheap second hand unit in a hurry.

My son inherited his Grandfathers sextant and I recall playing with it on our front lawn trying to make sense of anything , there was not a lot of progress .
Speaking of good navigators , Scot Jim Cowie , Chief Engineer on the Kaitoa , had an understanding with the second mate whereby he got the nod re the ship's position and distance run etc late in the morning s before going out on deck at noon with a metre long straight edge and a Moore and Wright protractor type engineers square with a level bubble to squint at the sun/horison before jotting some figures down that closely tallied with the second mates . He fooled a few for a day or two , great guy great times.

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Old 9th June 2019, 12:07
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...Chief Engineer...…..going out on deck at noon with a metre long straight edge and a Moore and Wright protractor type engineers square with a level bubble to squint at the sun/horizon.....Bob
V funny Bob. Sad such jovialities (and similar) now mostly consigned to the past.
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Old 9th June 2019, 12:57
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Could that be Graham Botrill in the picture ???
I knew Graham later in the late 1970's and the youthful navigator in the picture doesn't look like the Graham I remember (but neither do I look like my teen age self!)

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Old 9th June 2019, 16:23
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I knew Graham later in the late 1970's and the youthful navigator in the picture doesn't look like the Graham I remember (but neither do I look like my teen age self!)

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You may well be right. Back in 67 when I was cadet in the City of Brisbane the 1st Officer Bill Roberts [ ex THNS ] was on about the picture on Cookes advert in Browns NA being Grahm Bottrel but dont know if this was same picture. Its a THNS lad for sure,

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Old 9th June 2019, 18:02
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You may well be right. Back in 67 when I was cadet in the City of Brisbane the 1st Officer Bill Roberts [ ex THNS ] was on about the picture on Cookes advert in Browns NA being Grahm Bottrel but dont know if this was same picture. Its a THNS lad for sure,

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The Cooke’s catalogue from which I copied the cover appears to have been printed in 1959. Whoever the model was would have been in their final year at THNS.
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Old 9th June 2019, 18:14
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Never seen anyone in that uniform without passing (mutually) some erm, banter. Mind you, I haven't been to Hull since 1965.
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Mine was given me by a retired Mate from a Border Tanker in 1958. Every ship I joined it was carried by hand onto planes if we joined overseas....often wonder how many times I would have been asked at customs in these days..."what is this?".
The sextant box was very handy for keeping documentation in - plane ticket, professional 'ticket', Discharge Book, Seaman's Card, Passport etc. I imagine there were variations in space depending on the type of sextant box you had, mine was a Carl Zeiss Drum Sextant from the then East Germany and there was plenty of space beneath the Sextant to keep paperwork. Cost me £84.15 in 1973 from J.D. Potter Ltd on The Minories - I've still got the receipt, albeit a bit faded.
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Spent many happy hours mooching through J.D. Potter Ltd. I was good friends with one of the senior men, we shared a pub in Essex ( as patrons) in the mid 70"s.
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Old 26th June 2019, 16:20
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Spent many happy hours mooching through J.D. Potter Ltd. I was good friends with one of the senior men, we shared a pub in Essex ( as patrons) in the mid 70"s.
No doubt you got discounts then!

The £84 odd that I paid was below official price as once I'd chosen the sextant I wanted I walked back to the Bank Line office in Bury Street and they ordered it from Potters as ship stores so getting shipowner's discount and an absence of purchase tax. I didn't see the sextant until I joined the ship!
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Old 27th June 2019, 18:19
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Went to the manager of lloyds Bank, Stanmore, for a £50 loan in 1955 in order to buy a sextant. Special appointment and a serious interview with arrangements to pay back monthly before he would agree to an advance!

Then went to Potters and bought a Kelvin Hughes model ( The two greatest names in navigation, I believe their Ad was). This served me well for 10 years worldwide in Bank Line. It took its place on the chartroom settee alongside the other sextants and the curly sandwiches at night.

We often joined ships in Liverpool, and I recall getting off the train at Lime St Station on one occasion, and the porter said, " I'll take the bags, and you look after your sextant!" - Such was the volume of ships in Liverpool in bygone days.

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Old 26th July 2019, 18:16
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Memory not so good after sixty years but the name Geoff Hindley comes to mind.
Or perhaps Martin Hindley.....
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Old 26th July 2019, 19:52
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#24 I know the lad, (won't name him) he was Hull Trinity House Navigation School Captain, never lived that advert down, as he was taking a supposed sight with all the shades down.

Just noticed someone has named him in a later post, yes it is Graham Botrill

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Old 2nd August 2019, 12:57
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On a BA flight one night, Bermuda to Heathrow the stewardess came to me and invited to come up the fight deck. Spent three hours up there.

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Finish the story off.

Mile high club or what!
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Old 2nd August 2019, 13:04
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AND.

Finish the story off.

Mile high club or what!

Fraid not. The stewardess reminded me of 'Mona'


(Do you know of Mona? Look on YouTube for: Pam Ann - British Air advert ALSO for Pam Ann terrorist )

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Another from Pam Ann....

GOING DOWN ON PAM ANN -TITANIC SPOOF (YouTube)
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Old 5th August 2019, 17:48
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I remember the Cooke's advert in Brown's Nautical Almanac and the one thing that struck me was the continued use of a letter by a happy customer - an American gentleman called Alston Newball Junior who poured high praise on to which ever model of sextant he bought. Anybody else recall that?
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Old 12th August 2019, 12:46
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My sextant is a Vernier, purchased in 1928 for £5 by my grandfather.
I used it from 1973 untill 1979 and it worked fine.
When I was at sea I remember stories form the older Mates & Masters of when, during WW2 officers would use their sextant to plot enemy bombers coming in, then alter course hard over at exactly the right moment!
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Old 26th August 2019, 05:34
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There was a tale I heard more than once about a 3/O on the bridge wing, eating an apple and holding a sextant, waiting to take a sight - the moment came and he threw the wrong thing over the side.....
(Ex Shell Tanker Man, if that helps)
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There was a tale I heard more than once about a 3/O on the bridge wing, eating an apple and holding a sextant, waiting to take a sight - the moment came and he threw the wrong thing over the side.....
(Ex Shell Tanker Man, if that helps)
Ah! that reminds me of the time when in Lagos harbour taking the water density and then tipping the bucket over the side plus the Hydrometer!
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Old 26th August 2019, 20:45
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during WW2 officers would use their sextant to plot enemy bombers coming in, then alter course hard over at exactly the right moment!
And, if they didn’t manage to avoid the bombers, It wasn’t unknown for the gunners to use the potatoes from the ‘spud locker’, - when the ammo’ run done.
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I joined my first ship "SS Cape Sable" in Hong Kong in 1963. Before joining the ship the crew flew from Glasgow and I wondered why three guys with Harris Tweed sports jackets were carrying little wooden boxes on to the plane. As a first trip junior engineer I still had a lot to learn.
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