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Old 17th March 2006, 19:11
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Onassis Fleetlists

Ahoy,
On request, which was lately asked to me, here some fleet lists from the Onassis Group, starting with 1967:and a piccie of the Olympic Fame 1967
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Old 17th March 2006, 20:28
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Hi Ruud,

Interesting info on Onassis - I knew he was into shipping in a big way but never saw a list like that.

It's no wonder that Jackie Kennedy married him with all that lot to look forward to!

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Old 18th March 2006, 07:28
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Ahoy,

Here's another list, taken from Ocean Ships, this time 1971, haven't a clue if there were more or less vessels, but indeed a "big fleet" Brian!
The Olympic Accord 1969 included.
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Old 18th March 2006, 07:34
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Ahoy,

Here a list from 1974, as promised and another vessel from his fleet.
The Olympic Chariot 1963
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Old 18th March 2006, 07:40
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Ahoy,

Here the list from 1978,and the Olympic Fame 1965, sorry for the poor quality of the piccies, books are in a bad condition and the photos very small to scan, after 30+ years
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Old 18th March 2006, 07:46
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Ahoy,

Finally the last list at my position, the year 1982, and the Olympic Goal 1965 and the Olympic Grace
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Ahoy,

Some more piccies of the Onasis fleet;
The Olympic Freedom 1964 and the Olympic Valley 1953
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Old 18th March 2006, 18:59
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From what I have read on the Onassis family, Aristotle Socrates Onassis expected to leave this business to his son Alexander but Alexander was killed in a plane crash in 1973. Ari himself died in 1975 leaving the business to his daughter Christina. Christina died in 1988 after a heart attack and with a history of drug abuse over a long period. The loot then went to Christina's daughter Athina who got her hands on it in 2003 when she became 18 - estimates of the fortune vary between $600 Millon to $2.4 Billion according to which website you look at. Whatever the final figure was she is worth a packet.

If you are feeling lonely Athina I am sure there are a number of SN members who would volunteer to look after you and provide you with financial advice.

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Just want to add

Onassis was also into Whaling. Olympic Challenger was a whaling factory with no less than 4 funnels. Think it was the old William Barendtz. Right Ruud?
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Old 25th March 2006, 19:01
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Ahoy Knut,
Ha en god kveld,
But I don't know if the Willem Barendzs was renamed as Olympic Challenger, but indeed she had 4 funnels, as shown here;
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Old 25th March 2006, 23:25
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Olympic Challenger was a conversion from a wartime T2 tanker, originally named Oregon Trail. She was converted to a whale factory in 1950 but sold along with the rest of Onassis fleet in 1955. She came to Japanese owners and operated until 1972.

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Old 27th March 2006, 22:19
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http://www.xs4all.nl/~beejee/WILLEMBARENDSZ.htm

Never heard of the BROMENDAR, anyway not a Dutch vessel!
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The Onassis Group

I was reading one of the threads on SN in which the SN crew member stated that if was "deadman walking" on Onasis ships ie before you could get a berth someone had to cross the bar.

What made the Onasis group different from other shipping companies?

Where can I find more info about Onasis ships as they had Tankers and Cargo vessels.

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If you do a google search there is a wealth of information on his various shipping companies. Apparently he paid top Dollar so hence the term deadman walking
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Old 25th April 2008, 08:48
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Blair, this link here is a start - it is an easy mistake to make, but the man's name and the company is Onassis and this spelling may turn up more leads for you.

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Thanks guys. It would appear that I had the spelling wrong. Got some guys who sell ships and the like. Says he was ex Onassis

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In the 50's I was in the Panamanian port of Balboa on the Rangitane and berthed astern was a then super tanker "World Integrity" owned by the Niarchos Company.
She was about to move eastward through the Panama canal and because of her size, she was one of the biggest ships to enter the canal in those times, the canal authorities were carrying out a survey.
A group of us from Rangitane were on the wharf viewing this giant when we got into discussion with the second mate and the sparkie and were duly invited on board for a drink.
They explained that the authorities had come on board to examine the crew's certification and to paticularly check out the state of the engine room, controls and the steering gear to be sure of a trouble free transit.
The ship was registered under a flag of convenience and there were a few queries about some of the engineers qualifications, particularly the second engineer who was found to be sailing under his brother's ticket or some thing as dubious as that hence the close survey.
She was a newish ship and as we sat drinking in this unbelievably lavish officers smoke room they explained that all Niarchos's latest ships had owners quarters on board in case he was looking for a bed in some port etc but on this ship no proper provision had been made for an adequate officers smoke room. The Captain had apparently approached the head office about the possibility of using the private suite drawing room as a substitute and Niarchos had given his approval providing they covered the seating furniture with protective dust covers. It was a sumptuous set up, a few original art works on the bulkheads, a deck of multi coloured inlaid timber polished to a sheen and elegance all around.
I cannot recall what other generosities were extended to the crew but judging by the general appearance they were living the life of Riley

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Sailed as Master for several Greeks in my time commencing with Nick Frangos in the mid 70s. They were never content with you doing your job and invariably drawn into company 'intrigue' in one form or another. However, I have relieved dozens of Greek Master's, now that is an education! Whilst one cannot generalise the handover, cash etc was always a problem. They were in essence 'little business men' all aspiring to be owners. Seamanship/safety?? lets not go there.
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Old 26th April 2008, 09:19
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Bob,
Certification is a world the 'Greeks' are alien to. Strange that so many of the owners prefix their names with Captain when I now the majority of them have only been in a Masters cabin for coffee. Anything is possible with the Greeks! Believe half of what you are told and take plenty of salt with that.
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I went aboard a Greek tanker once, in Indonesia in the late 50's. I cant remember the name or if it was Niarchos or Onassis. The R/O was an Irishman and he seemed to be, at the time, on "film star wages", I was in Blue Flue. The accommodation for the Captain,Chief Engineer and the owners suite was like a Hollywood set. The R/O's cabin was very roomy but extremely spartan, I seem to recall a hospital type bed and metal desk and wardrobe and painted steel bulkheads,he did have his own bathroom. Quite cheerless really.The name Tina Onassis rings a bell but I couldnt be sure.
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The Master & Ch.Engineer HAD to be looked after! They were in the thick of it. As for the Radio Operators cabin, you are describing my cabin in the NBC Bulk Class and I was Master!! The pay cheque! Excellent.
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Changed the title of the thread to the correct spelling.
Mainly so that a site search will produce the correct results.
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Old 26th April 2008, 13:34
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As an aside Blue Funnel and probably other British companies got a bit of an eye opener when they bought US Liberties at the end of the war.
Accommodation built to same specification above but very spacious with iced water fountains in the alleyways and engine room.
You are right about the Liberties,I sailed on the Speaker, a T&J, and my cabin was right aft on the bridge deck, port side.It did have wooden fittings, large bunk and two ports, one facing aft and one on the side. The bunks were quite wide, in fact in rough weather we had to wedge ourselves in with lifejackets. Harrisons kept the iced water fountains. The radio room had been updated when I joined her in 56, complete with R/T, which I never saw during my time with BF.
Between my cabin and the Radio Room was a double berth which was used by a Purser. I believe that it had housed 2 R/Os during the war and my room was the Chief R/Os. (Jeremiah O' Brien,San Francisco).
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Old 26th April 2008, 17:07
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Hi all
My Father did some time in the Onassis Fleet in the fifties. He worked on the whale chasers & also did a relocation voyage on Onassis' yacht. I don't have much on detail but he spoke of his time in the fleet with great fondness. He had some photos of his time on the chasers but I don't have these in my possession.
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Old 26th April 2008, 17:14
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There is a current publication simply titled ONASSIS by George M Foustano availabe through SHIPS IN FOCUS (08450 760078). Unfortunately it is a whopping £89.00

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